Utah State TC40W

[asanchez6145]

On the form for Utah , TC-40W 2020, I have two W2's.  Only one printed on this from.  All of the numbers from the federal tax form came over correctly.

Is it important that boyh W2 be printed?

Thanks,

Andre Sanchez

[LenaH · Accepted solution]

Yes. If both W-2's had Utah state withholding, then you must have two entries on your TC-40W form. 

If your total wages on your returns are correct, then you should have both W-2's listed on the TC-40W form in back of your Utah state return. In addition, if you did not enter your state withholding on one of your W-2 entries, then this W-2 would not be entered on TC-40W. 

Please check your total income and state withholding on your return to ensure it is correct. 

[swelsch]

Hello, Lena.  I still can't get the Utah tax id number to clear our system.  It is 11 characters, including the three letters at the end of the tax id number.  When I run the review, it still gives me an error.  Are there any solutions yet?  

Thanks, Steve W.  Intuit tax expert.

[LenaH]

If your W-2 shows 11 digits (including the WTH at the end), then you will need to contact your employer for their correct state identification number. 

The Utah TC W40(1) payer ID must be a 14 character number. The first eleven characters are numeric and the last three are “WTH.” 

Example: 12345678901WTH.

Utah will NOT accept any other version for the Payer ID. 

For additional information, please see TC-40W, Part 1.

@swelsch

[SteamTrain]

.....and, when you get the proper full state ID number.....the final three letters need to be entered as Lower case wth in the software form   (Unless TTX fixes that in the meantime).

Use lower case.....wth...

[Juliusand1]

@LenaH this error seems to be due to the system getting form Utah TC W40(1) and (2) mixed up. You can see it when you look at the form, and not just rely on the system to tell you what is wrong. Line 1 asks for the EIN from Box b on the W-2. Line 2 asks for the 14 character number as shown in your example which comes from box 15 (Employer’s state ID no.) of the W-2. The question is whether it will be quicker to wait for the system to be fixed and e-file or to file by mail.

[DawnC]

Do not file by mail unless you absolutely have to.  The IRS is predicting long wait times for returns filed by mail.   They have not even finished processing all of the 2019 tax returns that were mailed in.    If you are getting an error about the state ID number for Utah, the suggestion above works to remove that error.  

Change the WTH to lower case.  Just make sure you put in the numbers first and then the letters without a hyphen.   Example:   12345678901wth

[Juliusand1]

Sorry, no. I tried making “wth” lowercase and it still wouldn’t let me efile my state return. The problem is that the checker is mixing up the parameters for line 1 with the parameters for line 2. Luckily I realized that I could efile my federal return and mail in my state return separately. But this is going to be a big problem for Utah residents until it is resolved. There needs to at least be a disclaimer acknowledging the problem until it can be resolved.

[Juliusand1]

As you can see from the form that the “14 character, ending in WTH, no hyphens”parameter belongs to line 2. Line 1 requires a completely different number. The automated accuracy checker system is programmed incorrectly.

[SteamTrain]

@Juliusand1 

Certainly, many have seen that using lower case "wth" for the Utah ID number in the actual original form, fixes their problems, so I doubt the checker is dealing with line 1 at all

....BUT...as long as you did use lower case "wth" on the originating form, I'd bet the real problem for yours is the second form entries,  just to the right side of what you hi-lighted.

"UT APPLIED FO"(r?)   

You received a W-2 or 1099-R has "Applied for" in the State ID Number box?   No way could you e-file it that way...especially if UT withholding was done for that one.  IF that one did withhold UT taxes, then you'd need to call them now...and see of they have received their UT number since they sent out the W-2 (or 1099) to you, and enter that UT ID number on whatever form was involved there..

[Juliusand1]

Ok, my second w-2 is probably the problem, but the checker was not saying the problem had to do with line 2, it was saying the problem was with line 1.  This lead to a lot of confusion and frustration on my part. It also didn’t differentiate between my multiple W-2s. I only looked at my first one, saw that I had 14 characters, ending in wth, with no hyphens, and just felt I was banging my head against the wall. Going lower-case on that first one made no difference and made zero sense. It took posting the screen shot of my state return for it to become obvious that it had to do with my second w-2. Only then did that rattle free the memory that Our finance/hr person sent out a message about the withholding number issue. I now have the number, but had already e-filed my federal return. I’ve tried amending my federal, but apparently form 1040X isn’t finalized yet. Is this problem going to screw up my federal return, and am I going to have to wait for 1040X to be ready before I can fix it?

[SteamTrain]

Going to have to wait for the 1040X?   Probably not, but I don't know how the software would be  working in this situation now.

I don't "think" you actually need to amend the Federal forms for that issue.  I "think" you could just edit that particular W-2 form to include the Proper UT ID number, there, then go to the UT forms and complete/submit your UT e-file.....

If you DID already start a Federal Amended tax return, See if they have an Undo-amend selection.  Then just go back and edit in the correct UT number.

or ...if using a paid version of TTX, call Customer Support for help in changing it:

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/using-turbotax/help/what-is-the-turbotax-phone-number/00/25632

[nimotago]

Where in the stax tax can i see that both 14 characters were enter for 2 W-2  without hypens or dash.

[DMarkM1]

That is actually found in the Federal Interview under the "Wages & Income" tab.

1. Scroll down to "Job (W2)"
2. "Show More"
3. "Start/Revisit" "W2"
4. "Edit" the applicable W2
5. Scroll down to box 15 to see the "State ID Number"