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maksim-h
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What if my wife lives in a different country?

I was married abroad to a non-US citizen in early 2020 and my wife is currently in the process of obtaining an immigration visa to the US. She lives abroad and does not have either an SSN or ITIN. Is it still possible for us to claim tax benefits as a married couple? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

What if my wife lives in a different country?


@maksim-h wrote:

I was married abroad to a non-US citizen in early 2020 and my wife is currently in the process of obtaining an immigration visa to the US. She lives abroad and does not have either an SSN or ITIN. Is it still possible for us to claim tax benefits as a married couple? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.


If you are a US citizen or US resident and your spouse does not have a Social Security number or an ITIN and you are not applying for an ITIN with the tax return then you can only file your tax return as Married Filing Separately.  Where asked to enter the spouse's Social Security number enter 999-88-9999.  You can only print and mail your tax return, it cannot be e-filed.  When you print the tax return erase the Social Security number for your spouse and manually enter NRA for non-resident alien.

See this TurboTax support FAQ for the procedure to print and mail a tax return using the online editions - https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1944348-how-do-i-print-and-mail-my-return-in-turbotax-online

 

If you decide to file your tax return as Married Filing Jointly you must apply for an ITIN with the tax return and you would need to be providing a statement with your tax return that you want your Nonresident Alien Spouse Treated as a Resident.  See IRS Publication 54 Tax Guide for U.S. Citizens and Resident Aliens Abroad pages 6 and 7 - https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p54.pdf

Go to this IRS website for ITIN information - https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/general-itin-information

nwalls2
New Member

What if my wife lives in a different country?

I  also got married abroad in 2020 and my husband has never been to the US. He does not have a SSN or ITIN. Can I still e-file? All assistance/guidance is greatly appreciated. 

What if my wife lives in a different country?


@nwalls2 wrote:

I  also got married abroad in 2020 and my husband has never been to the US. He does not have a SSN or ITIN. Can I still e-file? All assistance/guidance is greatly appreciated. 


No, you cannot e-file your 2020 tax return.  Read the answer already provided on this thread.

What if my wife lives in a different country?

Hi,

I was a resident alien for 2020. I got married to my wife in December 2020 in India. She entered the US for the first time in February 2021 (on H4 visa) but doesn't have an ITIN yet. Based on my understanding of this thread, can you please verify whether the following statement is correct -

"We can/should file married jointly. My wife needs to apply for her ITIN. She can apply for it while we are filing our taxes this year."

Can we e-file in this case using Turbotax or do we need to file offline, since the ITIN application needs to be appended as well?

Thank you.

MarilynG1
Expert Alumni

What if my wife lives in a different country?

@sriva119 Yes, you would need to mail in your return with the Form W-7 attached to apply for your wife's ITiN.

 

You may want to test the outcome of your return both including her (mailing with Form W-7) or Efiling with a Married Filing Separately status. 

 

Click this link for more info on Filing with Form W-7

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What if my wife lives in a different country?

Hi did you solve this already, I am in the same page right now and I'm so stressed... please let me know anything I want to do everything right for her interview day. 

MarilynG1
Expert Alumni

What if my wife lives in a different country?

@Alfredom007 You can file as Married Filing Jointly and attach form W-7 to your mailed in return if your spouse does not have a SSN or an ITIN.

 

Or, you can File as Married Filing Separately if your spouse has no US income to report.  You will still need to mail your return if your spouse has no SSN or ITIN. 

 

Click this link for more info on Filing with Foreign Spouse Living Abroad.

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What if my wife lives in a different country?

Hi! I am an Indonesian citizen, just married to a US active duty military member on Nov 2021. During the year of 2021 I was living in the Netherlands on a student visa and then working for 3.5 months on a work permit. I moved to the US to get married to him and now we are living together (only 2 of us). So I have no SSN nor ITIN. But during 2021 I have investment income in Indonesian bank account and I also have Dutch income during the 3.5 months (not much, approximately $9900. Due to a lot of travel expenses and marriage administration costs, we are having financial trouble, especially since I am not able to work yet until I get my immigration status adjusted. Therefore we are trying to married jointly to get an access to tax deduction benefit. As I understand, I need to file for ITIN, which we will do it soon. Do you have any tips or advice? We are a bit lost here. Thank you in advance

What if my wife lives in a different country?

multiple posts ... answered in other thread 

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4633351

Arnab21
Returning Member

What if my wife lives in a different country?

My wife was in USA from 2015 to 2018, and we filed joint tax return for those years. She moved to Switzerland in mid 2018. As I am a resident alien (on a non-immigrant visa) and she has a SSN (and can be treated as a resident alien), I continued filing joint tax returns for the years 2019 and 2020 with disclosing her income and tax information in Switzerland. She recently got a dependent visa in 2021 for occasional travel, but still residing in Switzerland. 

 

Should I continue to file joint tax returns? Do I need to do any ammendment?

What if my wife lives in a different country?

Yes. You should continue to file a joint return disclosing her income and tax information from Switzerland.

 

You elected to treat your spouse as a resident when you filed joint returns for 2019 and 2020. The choice to be treated as a U.S. resident for federal income tax applies to all later years and she will have to file a separate return, in case you decide to file separately.

 

The election to treat a spouse as a resident for tax purposes can be ended by revocation of choice by either of you. You can not make the choice again later once you revoke.

 

You may also have to file form 8938 and FBAR if required.

 

 

For more information click on the link below.

 

Filing Tax Return if my spouse is nonresident

 

Tax Residency

 

FBAR

 

8938

 

What if my wife lives in a different country?

This is very unfair, because by filing married filing separate you  are hit with a huge penalty on your taxes and end up paying far more taxes than you should.  If I were to file married I get a refund and by filing married filing separate I have to pay over 4 thousand dollars.  All this and I am still supporting my spouse overseas.  I m not doing it.  I will file married and fight it out with the IRS.

What if my wife lives in a different country?

Hi,

A little bit similar situation than previous one, could you please confirm that we can fill as married filing jointly in our situation:

1) both me and my spouse we have Green Card

2) my spouse is living in NY and I have lived in France through the whole 2021 (returning from time to time to the US)

Thank you very much,

Martina

 

DaveF1006
Expert Alumni

What if my wife lives in a different country?

@Mata13100 Yes, you can file jointly if you meet the substantial presence test. If you can meet the requirements for this test, there are no restrictions for you to file jointly. To meet this test, you must be physically present in the United States (U.S.) on at least:

  1. 31 days during the current year, and
  2. 183 days during the 3-year period that includes the current year and the 2 years immediately before that, counting:
    • All the days you were present in the current year, and
    • 1/3 of the days you were present in the first year before the current year, and
    • 1/6 of the days you were present in the second year before the current year.

If you do not meet the substantial presence test, you can still file jointly but there are some requirements that you must meet since you would be considered a non-resident alien for not meeting the terms of the Substantial Presence Test..

  • You and your spouse are treated, for federal income tax purposes, as U.S residents for all tax years that the choice is in effect. However, for Social Security and Medicare tax withholding purposes, the nonresident spouse may still be treated as a nonresident. Refer to Individuals Employed in the U.S. – Social Security Taxes .
  • You must file a joint income tax return for the year you make the choice (but you and your spouse can file joint or separate returns in later years).
  • Each spouse must report their entire worldwide income for the year you make the choice and for all later years unless the choice is ended or suspended.
  • Generally, neither you nor your spouse can claim tax treaty benefits as a resident of a foreign country for a tax year for which the choice is in effect. However, the exception to the saving clause of a tax treaty might allow a tax treaty benefit on certain specified income.

If you make this choice, you  must attach a statement, signed by both spouses, to your joint return for the first tax year for which the choice applies. It should contain the following information:

  1. A declaration that on the last day of the tax year one spouse was neither a U.S. citizen nor a U.S. resident within the meaning of IRC section 7701(b)(1)(A) and the other spouse was, and that you choose to be treated as U.S. residents for the entire tax year.
  2. The name, address, and identification number of each spouse. (If one spouse died, include the name and address of the person making the choice for the deceased spouse.)

When preparing the return, your spouse would need to be the taxpayer completing the return and then you will be reported as the spouse.

 

 

 

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