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I wish I would have known that and that I wasn't given the wrong advice by a turbo tax expert when I filed my taxes February 10th 2020.
My ex wife claimed my son in 2019 and got both stimulus checks for him but I claimed him in 2020 and when I was doing my taxes on turbotax.com I was confused as to why I was getting the 1,100 credit so I called a turbo tax expert and they told me to add my sons stimulus money to each of my payments and so I did and now I find out that I shouldn't have done that (which I later read on the irs website) and that I should have put the correct information in there. Now what do I do because if I amend my taxes it looks like I lied to them. Please someone help me with this situation. Thank you 😊
did you receive your refund yet? it is possible the IRS finds the error.
if you've received your refund and the IRS didn't find it, then yes, amend!
the way these stimulus payments and recovery credits worked, it is true that for divorced parents who alternate claiming their child each year, one parent can receive the stimulus for that child while the other gets the Recovery Credit on Line 30. So one child can be worth two payments, and that is all perfectly legal.
the same thing is going to occur for Stimulus 3.....
they are not going to think you lied; you just made an honest mistake. it happens.
I appreciate your help with this. The thing that bothers me is I added money to both my stimulus payments on my 1040 and that was advice I was given from a tax expert with turbo tax and so that would be the only way to explain why I would say I got the payments when in reality I didn't, which in turn is the truth. I called a turbo tax expert 2 times since finding this out and one said that it was the right thing to do another wasn't sure and the 3ed put me on hold and never came back to the call. I have used turbo tax for years now and never a problem and yes this is all new I get that but if the irs website issues rules for taxes online I would think the tax experts would learn about so they could be of better help to their customers. I've never amended my taxes before so I pray I get it right.
Yes I already did my taxes and got my return back...
This is right out of the 1040 instructions. I clearly states rounds 1 and 2 of the economic impact payments were based off of 2018 or 2019 income. The third round called the recovery rebate credit payment is based off the 2020 income. So TT is calculating incorrectly, and needs a fix.
Line 30
Recovery Rebate Credit
The recovery rebate credit was paid out
to eligible individuals in two rounds of
advance payments called economic impact payments. The economic impact
payments were based on your 2018 or
2019 tax year information. The recovery
rebate credit is figured like the economic
impact payments except that the credit
eligibility and the credit amount are
based on your 2020 tax year information. If you didn’t receive the full
amount of the recovery rebate credit as
economic impact payments, you may be
able to claim the recovery rebate credit
on your 2020 Form 1040 or 1040-SR.
@bobbyBE TurboTax is calculating the Recovery Rebate Credit correctly, directly out of the Recovery Rebate Credit worksheet as shown on the Form 1040 instructions page 58 - https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf#page=58
The third stimulus payment is not part of the 2020 federal tax return. It is paid directly by the IRS who controls when and if the payment is distributed.
Go to this IRS website for the third stimulus payment - https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/third-economic-impact-payment
The Recovery Rebate is based off of 2020 income. The ADVANCE payments used either 2018 or 2019 tax data, but the payments are reconciled on the 2020 tax return. You posted this above '''The recovery
rebate credit is figured like the economic
impact payments except that the credit
eligibility and the credit amount are
based on your 2020 tax year information. If you didn’t receive the full
amount of the recovery rebate credit as
economic impact payments, you may be
able to claim the recovery rebate credit
on your 2020 Form 1040 or 1040-SR.'' @bobbyBE
If you received too much, you don't have to pay it back, but you won't get extra if you do not qualify based on your 2020 income.
Bobby - I will add to the crowd.... the calculations are based on the 2020 tax return based on your income, filing status and dependents under the age of 17 LESS whatever you received for the first two stimulus payments, but not less than zero. that results ends up on Line 30
what was on the 2018 and 2019 tax returns doesn't matter as that was just used as an estimate to get money to everyone.
Similarly, while the 3rd stimulus is based on the 2020 tax return (or 2019), what will matter is the 2021 tax return for income, filing status and dependents (age won't matter) LESS what you received for the 3rd stimulus, but not less than zero. that results ends up on Line 30
Here's another twist: What if you qualified for the stimulus based on 2019 AGI but not 2020 and filed 2019 taxes on time but IRS never processed them or lost them (cashed check so know they received them). Never received $600 second stimulus check or third $1400 check and unable to claim back $600 on 2020 taxes since Rebate Recovery bases off of 2020 income. Only way to do this is to override form calculations. Any suggestions or is it just bad luck and timing?
How can you over ride the calculation??
@denmar0404 You have a couple of issues.
2019 taxes, you said check cashed but no stimulus received. That implies that you mailed your taxes, they cashed the check and have not processed the 2019 return in time for you to qualify for the second stimulus
2020 taxes and income used to determine if you qualify for missed stimulus. If your income is too high in 2020, you do not get the missed stimulus.
It does no good to try and override and change what is not allowed, The IRS cross checks every return for stimulus received, income, etc. You will not get what you are not entitled to, regardless of what you do to the forms. @bobbyBE
Thanks for your response but not understanding why I am not entitled to the stimulus. It was only because the IRS was slow in processing that I didn’t. If my return was processed in a timely manner I would have received it. Are you saying I am totally out of luck?
Sorry yes. if you do not qualify for the Recovery Rebate Credit because of your 2020 tax situation then you will not be able to get the missed stimulus payment.
See IRS question Q B3 here, Change in Eligibility
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/recovery-rebate-credit-topic-b-eligibility
The Recovery rebate credit is really based on your 2020 AGI, not 2019 or 2018. See my posts on this one. I found a couple IRS links that say if you don't qualify for more based on 2020 and you don't have to pay it back if you got too much.
And see the employee expert answer here
She said......
If you do not qualify for the Recovery Rebate Credit because of your 2020 tax situation then you will not be able to get the missed stimulus payment.
@FL0404 - I appreciate your question and the confusion over this issue.. On another thread I tried to bring some clarity to this in a 'tongue in cheek' method.... hopefully this will explain what really occurred and answer your question.
I agree that it can be confusing and befuddling but Congress and the IRS had to do this in a rush - some "won" and some 'lost" because of the rush.
The critical point is everything is based on the 2020 tax return, regardless of who got what and who received a check they should not have and who didn't receive a check they thought they should have (your case). that is the way the law was passed is the only true explanation.
the conversation in March, 2020 between Congress and the IRS went something like this:
Congress: Send out $1200 to every taxpayer and base the calculation on the 2020 tax return
IRS: but 2020 is not over yet, we don’t know what people will submit on their 2020 tax returns
Congress: then use their 2019 tax return (and if that is not available use 2018) to determine the stimulus payments
IRS: what happens if we send out this money and when we analyze the 2020 tax return we realize we sent too much?
Congress: not to worry we will write the law so that if anyone gets more money than their 2020 tax return says they are entitled to, they won’t have to return it! Line 30 cannot be negative
IRS: what happens if we make a mistake and don't send out money we should have?
Congress: it doesn't matter. Remember what we stated: everything is really based on the 2020 tax return. There is no such thing as a 'mistake' for sending out too little because the real payment is based on the 2020 tax return in any event.
IRS: Brilliant and Yes Sir, we will send out the checks.
Then in December, 2020
Congress: do it again, same rules but use $600
hope that helps!
@bobbyBE - you can't and should not over ride the calculations.
It will invalidate the TT guarentee.
The IRS will just correct it back to the correct calculation.]
why would you want to override it?
I don't believe that the irs is cross checking every return for the right stimulus amounts they gave out because like I said in my other post, I only received stimulus money for myself the first 2 rounds but put in the extra amounts for my son through guidance from turbo tax and they accepted my return and sent out my return in 2 weeks. Had they checked it they would have seem the mistake or maybe they left it that way so they wouldn't have to give me the extra 1,100 I'm entitled to.
I still haven't amended my return yet. Not totally sure how to do it and if the irs is going to accept it since I gave them wrong amounts which I added money so that doesn't look good on my end.
Any advice would be appreciated
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