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When will the 400% APTC cap be fixed on form 8962 in TurboTax?

Trying to decide if it makes sense to withdraw more from an IRA and use up a solar tax credit as fast as possible (inflation is killing it....).    TurboTax doesn't yet have the inflation reduction act waiver of the 400% of poverty level incorporated into it.   As a result, tipping over the 400% threshold slams me with paying back all of the APTC whereas in reality it would only get reduced by <10% for every dollar over the threshold.

 

This has been law since Biden signed it in August.  Why hasn't this been updated yet?   Decisions need to be made before the end of the year.   Tick, tick, tick.....

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When will the 400% APTC cap be fixed on form 8962 in TurboTax?

The Form 8962 for tax year 2022 is estimated to be available in TurboTax on 01/19/2023 - https://form-status.app.intuit.com/tax-forms-availability/formsavailability?albRedirect=true&product...

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When will the 400% APTC cap be fixed on form 8962 in TurboTax?

The Form 8962 for tax year 2022 is estimated to be available in TurboTax on 01/19/2023 - https://form-status.app.intuit.com/tax-forms-availability/formsavailability?albRedirect=true&product...

When will the 400% APTC cap be fixed on form 8962 in TurboTax?

Thank you.    TT makes it very difficult to make year end decisions......... 

When will the 400% APTC cap be fixed on form 8962 in TurboTax?

As of 1/13/2023, form 8962 is listed as ready for print and ready for efile.  But the 400% APTC cap is not yet fixed.  Hopefully the fix comes in the 1/19/2023 update?

It would be nice if TurboTax were completely up-to-date so that "what if" end-of-year financial moves could be modelled and decisions made.  Unfortunately the feds didn't give Intuit much time.  These tax bills are pretty massive, and Intuit has to prioritize what changes get put in their many products first.  When a change that affects you isn't implemented by the end of year, it sucks.  I want the changes that affect *me* implemented first.  Unfortunately, I don't run the company....

When will the 400% APTC cap be fixed on form 8962 in TurboTax?

If you are trying to do some 2022 tax planning then use the fully operational 2021 downloaded version instead. 

 

 

This is my mini version of  a tutorial  that should be in the downloaded program: 

 

What is Forms Mode?

Forms Mode lets you view and make changes to your tax forms "behind the scenes."

If you're adventurous, you can even prepare your return in Forms Mode, but we don't recommend it. You may miss obscure credits and deductions you qualify for, and you may forget to report things that will come back and haunt you later.

Forms Mode is exclusively available in the TurboTax CD/Download software. It is not available in TurboTax Online.

                  

Related Information:

                             

If you want to play around with different figures and tax scenarios without affecting your original return you can ….

  • >>>In the TurboTax CD/Download software by creating a test copy
  • 1.  Open your return in TurboTax. 
  • 2.  From the File menu, choose Save As. 
  • 3.  Give the copy a new name to distinguish it from the original (for example, by adding "Test" or "Example" to the file name). 
  • 4. Click  Save. You are now safely working in the test copy and anything you do here will not affect the original. 
  •  https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1900642-how-to-make-a-test-copy-of-your-return

                        

  • >>  use the WHAT IF tool: 
  • - Click Forms Icon (upper right of screen) or Ctrl 2 (forms view) 
  • - Click on the Open Form Icon 
  • - In the “Type a form name.” area type What-If (with the dash), click on the name of the worksheet - click on Open Form 
  • - You will see the worksheet on the right side of the screen; enter the information right into the form 
  • - To get back to interview mode - click on the Step-by-Step Icon (upper right of screen) or Ctrl 1

 

Once you have filed successfully … you can shut off the auto updater function and then save the return &  .taxfile.

 

For Windows, up in the top menu, you  can set the  "Updater Preferences" to "Always Ask" or more commonly set to "I don't have an internet connection"  (even if you do), and then you are not forced to update....and can manually force an update when you choose to do so.   And then you can open the file(s) at any time with no forced upgrade.

 

But that's the Windows software.....not a MAC. For a MAC you cannot turn off the auto updater  HOWEVER  you can simply disconnect from the internet before opening the tax return.

 

                    

It's always a good idea to make a backup copy of your tax data file, in case your original gets lost or corrupted. Here's how:

  1. From the File menu in the upper-left corner of TurboTax, choose Save As (Windows) or Save (Mac).
  2. Browse to where you want to save your backup.
    • Tip: If you're saving to a portable device, save it to your computer first to prevent data corruption. Then, after completing Step 4, copy or move the backup file to your device.
  3. In the File name field, enter a name that will distinguish it from the original tax file (for example, add "Backup" or "Copy" to the file name)
  4. Click Save and then close TurboTax.
  5. Restart TurboTax and open the backup copy to make sure it's not corrupted. If you get an error, delete the backup and repeat these steps.

If you make changes to your original tax return file, repeat these steps to ensure your original and backup copies are in-synch.

Related Information:                             

 

AND save it as a PDF so you have access to a copy even if you don’t have the program still installed and operational :

AND protect the files :

 

*** Other clues to the downloaded program ***

 

In the forms mode ... double click  or right click on a box on a form to data source it ... sadly it doesn't work on all boxes. 

 

What's the meaning of all the different colors in Forms Mode?

When you look at an onscreen tax form using Forms Mode, you might wonder why one figure is blue and the one next to it is red or black.

These colors indicate the source of that data.

Color

 Meaning

Blue

You entered this data, either in the interview or Forms Mode.

Black

The program entered this data or calculated this amount.

Red

This data has either been overridden or is invalid (for example, a ZIP code that doesn't exist).

Red italics

You marked this amount as estimated.

Black italics

The program calculated this amount from an amount you marked as estimated.

Purple

This information has supporting details.

Aquamarine

This data was transferred over from last year.

Green

This data was imported from Quicken or QuickBooks.

Yellow fields (Windows)

Yellow fields allow user input. Anything you enter here shows up in blue.

                                                                                                                                  

PRIOR YEAR USE OF A SUPPORTING DETAILS WORKSHEET :

 

If you find you have a  $0  in an entry field that cannot be changed … this issue is almost always one in which you used a "Supporting Details"  (SD) sheet in that field in the prior year.   What happens is that when you transfer in the prior year's data, the SD sheet is transferred too, but empty...and that causes the $0 to show up in many areas of the Step-by-Step mode interview....wherever the SD sheet was used before.

 

But when switching to Forms Mode, when you try to enter a $$ amount in a field where the SD sheet is attached, the SD sheet will pop up immediately, and you can either enter the $$ amount on that sheet, or delete the SD sheet entirely and avoid future issues (unless you really want the SD sheet)

 

Sometimes, when you see the $0 in Step-by-Step, you can just

 

  1. a)  double-click on the field and the SD sheet will pop up.  But I've seen that doesn't work in all cases.

 

  1. b)  Another way is to click on the field, then go up to the menu..."<<Edit<<<Add Supporting Details"....then the SD sheet pops up and you can use it, or delete the SD sheet entirely and then the regular field will work properly.

 

  1. c)  OR  click on the problem field, then switch to Forms Mode to make that entry

 

 

 

 

 

 

When will the 400% APTC cap be fixed on form 8962 in TurboTax?

Good ideas Critter-3.  But they don't work for me.

 

The 2021 version does not have the 2022 inflation-adjusted tax brackets in it.

 

Even in Forms mode, you can't go in and make form 8962 work around the 400% limitation.  At least not yet.  It just doesn't let you put numbers into line 11 like you need to.

 

In past years, the early versions of TurboTax were good enough for evaluating my end-of-year tax moves.

This year, not so much.  In addition to the 8962 limitation, TT has yet to have the EV tax credit support in it.  Of course, this was the year I bought a new PHEV.  I'm sure there are many tax situations that it doesn't yet deal with accurately, and those affect others, but not me.  Anyway, I digress...

 

When will the 400% APTC cap be fixed on form 8962 in TurboTax?

It appears that the 01/19/2023 update does indeed include the fix for the 400% APTC cap.

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