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Lani6
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TT not printing page 3 of Form 8582

Turbo Tax has transferred data from my Schedule E and Form 4835 for rental and farm income to Form 8582. For 2023, Form 8582 will print pages 1 and 2, but not page 3. I can view page 3 in the Forms view, but strangely it lists page 3 as "page 3-Copy 1." When I try to print page 3, TT prints pages 1 and 2 from the forms view, but not page 3. When I try to print the entire 1040 for filing, the pdf view includes only page 1 and 2, not page 3 of the 8582. Page 3 states that this form must be filed with IRS, but it appears page 3 will not be transmitted, although error check does not catch this as an error.  In addition, I have no idea whether the data (i.e. for unallowed losses) will transport from 2023 to 2024. I have used TT for decades, and this has never occurred. I tried to delete page 3 several times to see if it would generate a new page 3, but it will never delete the page 3 copy 1.  How do I get TT to include page 3 in the transmission to IRS.

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CatinaT1
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TT not printing page 3 of Form 8582

Are you still experiencing this problem? Do you have calculations on page 3? Page 3 is only used for Activities With Losses Reported on Two or More Forms or Schedules. If you do not have calculations on page 3, this is likely why it is not included.

 

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Lani6
Returning Member

TT not printing page 3 of Form 8582

Yes, we have been waiting for the callback, which I was told would happen 3/19/24 after our 2 1/2 conversation with 3 TT representatives plus a fourth expert in conversation with the third, and we have received no call. Yes, there are calculations on page 3. We are very familiar with page 3 of Form 8582, as TT has prepared it (the user does not prepare this form) with data that flows from Schedule E and Forms 4835 and 4797, and we have filed it with our return for decades.  The top of page 3 says it "must" be filed with the return. 

Yes, we have updated TT. Every time we open the program, it checks for updates.  Yes, we have cleared the cache and cookies. One of the three TT representatives went through that process with us. As we told all your representatives, in Forms View, we can select and view page 3 of Form 8582, but we cannot print it there. When we try to print it while we are viewing page 3, TT only prints pages 1 and 2. When we bring up the full return (Form 1040 and all attachments to be filed with IRS), we can see all the forms to be filed, including pages 1 and 2 or Form 8582, but not page 3.

We don't think it has anything to do with the data on Form 8582. TT has clearly prepared the form from the data which flows from other forms. As we told your representatives, when looking at the forms view, the list of forms shows "page 1," "page 2," and "page 3 - COPY 1." It appears the problem may be with the reference to "copy 1." There is no original or plain page 3. We have tried deleting the page 3 copy 1, in hopes it would generate a regular page 3, but it will not delete. The "copy" remains in the forms list. This appears to be a TT software problem, which has nothing to do with the data entry aspect. 

Rightfield
Returning Member

TT not printing page 3 of Form 8582

I am having the same problem with Desktop Home & Business version on Windows 10.  Page 3 of Form 8582 was automatically generated as "Copy 1" and has correct entries from Schedule E and Form 4797, but it does not appear when the form is printed, nor when the entire return is printed.  How do I know if this will be transmitted on e-file or not?

Rightfield
Returning Member

TT not printing page 3 of Form 8582

Just went back and checked past returns.

2022 form 8582 page 3 (Copy - 1) printed & 2023 form 8582 page 3 (Copy - 1) did not print.

2022 was the first year I started using TT.  Either it works OK the first time data is entered or they broke something for 2023 and it still hasn't been fixed.

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