Turbo Tax has transferred data from my Schedule E and Form 4835 for rental and farm income to Form 8582. For 2023, Form 8582 will print pages 1 and 2, but not page 3. I can view page 3 in the Forms view, but strangely it lists page 3 as "page 3-Copy 1." When I try to print page 3, TT prints pages 1 and 2 from the forms view, but not page 3. When I try to print the entire 1040 for filing, the pdf view includes only page 1 and 2, not page 3 of the 8582. Page 3 states that this form must be filed with IRS, but it appears page 3 will not be transmitted, although error check does not catch this as an error. In addition, I have no idea whether the data (i.e. for unallowed losses) will transport from 2023 to 2024. I have used TT for decades, and this has never occurred. I tried to delete page 3 several times to see if it would generate a new page 3, but it will never delete the page 3 copy 1. How do I get TT to include page 3 in the transmission to IRS.
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Yes, we have been waiting for the callback, which I was told would happen 3/19/24 after our 2 1/2 conversation with 3 TT representatives plus a fourth expert in conversation with the third, and we have received no call. Yes, there are calculations on page 3. We are very familiar with page 3 of Form 8582, as TT has prepared it (the user does not prepare this form) with data that flows from Schedule E and Forms 4835 and 4797, and we have filed it with our return for decades. The top of page 3 says it "must" be filed with the return.
Yes, we have updated TT. Every time we open the program, it checks for updates. Yes, we have cleared the cache and cookies. One of the three TT representatives went through that process with us. As we told all your representatives, in Forms View, we can select and view page 3 of Form 8582, but we cannot print it there. When we try to print it while we are viewing page 3, TT only prints pages 1 and 2. When we bring up the full return (Form 1040 and all attachments to be filed with IRS), we can see all the forms to be filed, including pages 1 and 2 or Form 8582, but not page 3.
We don't think it has anything to do with the data on Form 8582. TT has clearly prepared the form from the data which flows from other forms. As we told your representatives, when looking at the forms view, the list of forms shows "page 1," "page 2," and "page 3 - COPY 1." It appears the problem may be with the reference to "copy 1." There is no original or plain page 3. We have tried deleting the page 3 copy 1, in hopes it would generate a regular page 3, but it will not delete. The "copy" remains in the forms list. This appears to be a TT software problem, which has nothing to do with the data entry aspect.
I am having the same problem with Desktop Home & Business version on Windows 10. Page 3 of Form 8582 was automatically generated as "Copy 1" and has correct entries from Schedule E and Form 4797, but it does not appear when the form is printed, nor when the entire return is printed. How do I know if this will be transmitted on e-file or not?
Just went back and checked past returns.
2022 form 8582 page 3 (Copy - 1) printed & 2023 form 8582 page 3 (Copy - 1) did not print.
2022 was the first year I started using TT. Either it works OK the first time data is entered or they broke something for 2023 and it still hasn't been fixed.
This exact problem still exists in the latest TurboTax Desktop Premier 2024 (updated today: October 16, 2025; version: 024 . 000 . 0487, Windows), and it is completely blocking my 2024 filing.
The fact that you cannot even get TurboTax to print IRS 8582 page 3 even when it is the active selected form is very strange -- I've never seen that before with any other form with any other version of TurboTax.
@Lani6, @Rightfield, Did TurboTax ever provide you a technical solution other than generating IRS Form 8582 page 3 manually and paper filing? If you e-filed, did TurboTax confirm whether page 3 actually gets transmitted or did you objectively confirm its transmission by pulling your IRS tax return transcript(s) from your IRS.gov account to see if it includes any info from page 3 (even if properly transmitted, it is possible that detail might not be included in the IRS transcript)? Clearly, this issue was either never fixed completely or a regression was introduced at some point afterwards for TurboTax 2024.
@Lani6, @Rightfield, I think the reason TurboTax adds the "Copy 1" is simply because there can be multiple page 3s depending on how many applicable passive activities you have. It's just sloppy programming when there is only a single page 3. Quoting from the 2024 IRS Form 8582 instructions for Part IX: "Use a separate copy of Part IX for each activity for which you have losses reported on two or more different forms or schedules or which are identified separately on the same form or schedule." I have seen "Copy 1" added to several other forms like IRS Form 1116, but usually only when there are in fact multiple copies of the same form that need to be disambiguated.
I just assumed it was a printing issue, since the return was e-filed and accepted.
Not sure I would assume that it is just a printing issue because I do not think the IRS knows whether your return is supposed to contain IRS 8582 page 3 or not. A tax return without IRS 8582 page 3 can still be a valid return. Plus, if page 3 does not print even when you are trying to print all forms required for paper filing, that definitely begs the question whether page 3 will in fact get packaged and submitted for e-filing.
While there is some cursory content validation, my understanding of the e-file acceptance criteria is that they are a lot more procedural and structural and format driven. You can get a sense by reviewing some of the published validation / e-file rejection errors and solutions.
Do you have an IRS.gov account? If so, reviewing your IRS tax return transcript might provide confirmation of whether IRS Form 8582 page 3 actually got transmitted.
@Rightfield, FWIW, the IRS tax return transcript seems like it cannot reliably confirm whether TurboTax e-file transmitted IRS 8582 page 3 or not. I just checked my own IRS tax return transcripts for the past couple years when my return did not include any IRS 8582 page 3s and when all were paper filed, so I know exactly what I mailed to the IRS. Unfortunately, the IRS tax return transcript for each of those years does not seem to include anything about any pages of IRS 8582 -- at least not when you're just accumulating passive losses. The only mention of Form 8582 (in the negative) seems to be in the completely irrelevant (for me) sub-section "Income or Loss From Estate and Trusts" of "Schedule E--Supplemental Income and Loss": "Passive loss not reported on Form 8582."
Thus, until the federal government shutdown ends and the IRS fully reopens and staffs its phone-based customer service, it seems like only TurboTax can definitively advise whether IRS Form 8582 page 3 actually gets transmitted when e-filing.
I'm not concerned about it. In the event that page 3 was not transmitted, and the IRS realizes this at some point and asks for it, I can provide them the information on paper.
@Rightfield Were you able to get TurboTax to actually print IRS 8582 page 3 somehow? If so, please share your procedure. If not, are you planning to just manually complete IRS 8582 page 3 from the PDF on the IRS website?
If necessary, I will manually fill out the f8582 pdf that I downloaded from IRS website.
FWIW, I called TurboTax today (October 17, 2025) and got a rep to create an investigation for this issue. I even provided the steps to create a minimal dummy tax return to reproduce the problem (e.g., a single 1065 K-1, limited partner, with a loss in each of Box 2 and Box 10). Hopefully, the investigation gets accepted, and the issue gets fixed either in TurboTax 2024 or at least TurboTax 2025.
I received a very lame email from TurboTax today (Monday, October 20, 2025) that stated the following:
Thanks for letting us know about your issue with printing form 8582. We apologize for any inconvenience this caused. We’ve got a help article that we think will help you with this.
If this doesn’t do the trick or there’s something else we can help you with, feel free to give us a call.
That is a completely generic help article about IRS Form 8582 and obviously does not address the issue. What a joke response.
Thus, I just called TurboTax again (on October 20, 2025), and got transferred to the Resolutions Desk again. Even though minimal detailed reproduction steps were included with the original investigation request from this past Friday, October 17, 2025, and this community article was also referenced, the first investigation request was apparently closed because there was "not enough information to investigate the issue."
Therefore, I just had the agent submit a second investigation request, referencing the first investigation request, and reiterating almost everything that was already included in the first request in the exact format the investigation team requested.
So far, I have now spent 2.5 hours total (Friday: 1 hour; today: 1.5 hours) trying to get through TurboTax's procedural hoops just to even start a formal investigation of this issue, which is now way more time than it would have taken to simply complete the PDF of IRS 8582 page 3 manually. And this is on top of all the time spent by @Lani6 and @Rightfield.
You would think the TurboTax investigation team could actually spend 5 minutes reading investigation requests in full before rejecting them, but apparently, that is too much to ask. Customer time is valuable too and should not be disregarded when diligently reporting obvious issues with TurboTax software.
@Lani6, @Rightfield, Closing the loop on this: After my 2nd request on October 20, 2025, TurboTax finally agreed to formally investigate and fix the issue with printing IRS Form 8582 Page 3. Unfortunately, the software fix will apparently only be applied to TurboTax 2025, not TurboTax 2024 or TurboTax 2023.
Thus, with either TurboTax 2024 or TurboTax 2023, if you need to paper file an original or amended return or simply want to print / save all your required forms, you must prepare IRS Form 8582 page 3 manually using the PDF of the blank form on the IRS website.
Regarding e-filing, TurboTax stated that IRS Form 8582 page 3 is being included in e-file submissions. However, the only way to objectively verify that page's inclusion seems to be to call the IRS and ask whether the IRS in fact received it. I have not called the IRS to verify because I have yet to e-file a return that includes IRS Form 8582 page 3.
A forum moderator reached out to me via email and helped move my 2nd investigation request along internally. I think this was @GabiU, and if so, thank you, @GabiU.
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