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Hello,
I have encountered same problem yesterday April 23,2021. I called for TuboTax help and they could not find any problem with the tax return. On top of it , Turbo Tax is asking me to file by mail as this has happened twice on two different attempt.
Shame on Turbo Tax. Why pay for efile?? Not going to use Turbo Tax if this not fixed
[Note from Foxbat: This is a compilation of my prior weeks postings on the topic beginning on page 18. If you are reading this, TT has likely not implemented corrections yet.]
I too had difficulties getting e-filed due to rejection related to foreign tax credit. On the 8th attempt to file it went through. I have been filing with TT for about two decades and always with a FTC. To fix the issue, whatever it was, I did the following (I only have passive category income with foreign taxes [specifically, dividends]):
My advice first assumes you have run error check for your entire return and confirmed no other errors in foreign tax credit have been flagged by TT for resolution before you attempt to file. Look for error flags in the Forms (vs. Step-by-step) format. Click the red “errors” stop sign symbol just under the blue TT banner, top left; if all is OK you will get a green checkmark and “Great News: Your return has no errors” at the bottom center of your screen. Errors show up as flags next to the form with an error. If you have done these checks and TT says all is fine and you attempt to file, but the IRS disagrees and rejects the filing and the TT rejection note says it is related to the Foreign Tax credit and to review your answers, that is when my advice kicks in.
I have only tried this with passive category income from mutual funds, if you have more exotic income (some of the other boxes) then this may not help.
You are going to be looking for two major things: Country of Origin and Dates of Payment.
Start with each of your 1099-DIVs that have foreign income. It was easiest for me to locate these using the forms option (vs. step-by-step) in TT.
Form 1116.
Look for error flags in the Forms format again as above. If all is fine and the rest of your return shows ready to fine, complete your filing. While TT may be fine with what you entered, the IRS may still not like it and reject it and TT will identify the reason for rejection as “e-file rejected due to Foreign Taxes Paid or Accrued”. If so, go back to the start of these suggestions (yet again) and review for gaps/omissions again. I found that until I had all of the above lined up the return would reject. It took seven errors, but finally figured out when all the various had been eliminated completely that is when the filing was accepted on the eighth try.
Other tips if you still receive reject notices:
(1) Make sure there isn't some bit of income lurking out there as foreign on a 1099. You can do this by comparing the amount of foreign dividends total from each of your 1099-DIVs to the total showing in the Form 1116.
(2) Confirm the Form 1116 itself does not have any "various" or blanks for dates where you have numeric entries. If it does, then go back to your 1099-DIVs to identify where the entry is coming from and make the correction.
(3) Checked your prior year Form 1116 against this year to assure the non-numeric items were consistent between the two.
(4) Most people use the Simplified AMT option. Changing the option requires, I think, IRS consent and can cause problems, so it is something you do not do casually.
Yes, it is a pain to do all the detail checking. It's a detail check odyssey or mailing the return choice. Hopefully you get to success much quicker than I did. Hope this helps!
Thank you for posting this info. Following your suggestions I was able to get my 2020 Tax Return ACCEPTED after two failed rejections. Thaks again.
fastredcars
Hello,
I am using the 2020 TurboTax application on Windows 7 (not online)
On Apr 23 my Federal and State Tax Return filing got rejected (twice) due to Foreign Tax Credit issues. Although i followed the TT instructions in the app to fix the problem, there was NO RESOLUTION based on TT feedback.
I then read several posting on this thread and discovered a potential issues in 1099-DIV and Form 1116 due to the usage of "various" in some of the entries. In particular I focused on the info from Elissameck Re: E-file rejected due to ForeignTaxesPaidOrAccruedDt on Form 1116 [Elissameck THANK YOU for posting]
Based on the above:
a) I accessed my 2020 TurboTax Tax Return and using the “View Forms” mode I changed BOTH the 1099-DIV and Form 1116 as follow:
b) I printed (as PDF) the Tax Return Filing Forms and checked there were NO instances of "various" in my Tax Return Forms (I did a simple seach in the PDF print file for the word "various").
c) I resubmitted the Tax Return to both Federal and State and within 10 min it was ACCEPTED by both.
PROBLEM SOLVED
Enjoy,
fastredcars
Me too. I'm disappointed with TT.
Turbo Tax had so much time but they simply just don't fix it.
Same issue here. And it took Turbo Tax staff 2 hours to identify it as a known software issue. Uggghhh. I have one federal and three state returns to file, and will have to do so with hard copies. I can't remember the last time I had to go to the post office! Sucks. It's May 4 and it is still an issue! At least they could communicate as to the status of resolving this issue.
If you look back in the replies you will find a very long detailed composite post from me (Foxbat) from a week ago that you might find resolves your problem with efiling and foreign taxes. Most people have found that the solution I posted works and they are able to efile with a Form 1116.
TT is aware of this solution but not all of TT has been advised, so some (most?) of tech support are unaware of the solution. When I asked the tech specialist (not sure of the title, but a level or two above tech support that we can talk to on the phone) why it was not posted as the first response on page one I was told only the person that posted the original question can do that. Odd, but maybe TT spends so much time working with the government they have picked up the normal irrational governmental practices.
Thanks for letting me know, but TT says it cannot file because I selected a simplified AMT Foreign Tax Credit limitation. There are no errors that TT identified.
Your suggestions don't address that I don't think. I have selected this (checked "yes") every year with no problems e-filing, but alas, not in 2020. I tried checking "no" and e-filing, and it went through TT, but the return was rejected by the IRS.
It is true that TT will not identify any errors. That is the problem: there are errors in your return that TT does not recognize but on filing with the IRS your return is rejected, and TT advises you it as related to foreign taxes. Read my terribly long post about how to debug what you are facing. The critical errors start back in your 1099-DIVs and how the entries, particularly in Box 8 where blanks or "various" are carried forward. Once you fix the errors (which TT will not flag as errors, tricking you into thinking things are fine when they are not) most find they can file. It is a long post for a reason, shortcut it and a good chance of failure. Took me 8 tries to figure it out then write it up so you can do it in fewer attempts. Give going through the post a try.
Yes, you are correct. If you have selected The simplified method for FTC turbo tax makes you file by paper 😾. And the IRS makes changing methods extremely difficult. A real fail for TT
I believe you will find that if you change methods, then you will have an issue as changing methods requires IRS consent. Very few people use the "Standard" method, most use the "Simplified" method. I efiled successfully using Simplified so I know it can be done. OK, took 8 tries for me to get all the bugs worked out, but it worked.
The difficulty is there are other errors in your Form 1099-DIV that TT does not recognize as errors but the IRS treats them as errors when you try to efile. Read my earlier composite (Foxbat) post from a week ago to see how to debug the problem. Mostly it is in 1099-DIV Box 8 where the problem begins, but as the post explains there are other areas that can give you issues in the Form 1116 that prevent efiling -- but are correctable by we as TT users. The solution requires a very close detailed review to make sure you get it right.
TT finally filed mine. After getting message for several weeks about not being able to e-file, I went in to file one way or another. The message had disappeared.
In Part II / column i, I never had 'various' . TT had always put in 12/31/2020 but still (using simplified method) had the 'can't e-file' message. Suddenly gone and I've filed. Check that entry, I now had "1099 taxes" instead of a date.
My pdf copy is dated April 20 so that is presumably when I filed. They haven't bounced it yet. But I also don't see any progress on the pretty large refund.
I don't think TT has yet solved the software issue. I am still getting the message, "You elected the simplified AMT Foreign Tax Credit limitation. Print the return and file by mail." Incredibly bad Customer Service by TurboTax IMO. The USPS is also incredibly bad; they lost two of my Form 5227 filings last year. I hate filing by mail. Come on TT, FIX THE ****** ISSUE so we all can e-file.
I do not see a date field on the 1099s, the Form 1116, or Form 6251 (AMT). Where are you seeing a date field?
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