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Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

Please do not try to use your pay stub to prepare your tax return.  It will not match the W-2 that you will get from your employer in just a few short weeks.  You employer has until the end of January to give you your W-2.  By waiting for your W-2 you will be able to file accurately.  If you try to guess what goes in the “boxes” and mess up your return, you will need to amend.  It takes about 4 months to amend a tax return.  The IRS is not accepting returns yet, so you can wait for your W-2.  

You may be aware that in late December Congress passed a major tax reform bill.  That has the IRS scrambling to get tax return forms ready for this tax filing season.  They were waiting for the laws to pass.

Some forms are not finalized so you cannot file.  The IRS has to finalize a number of forms and then approve the finalized forms in the TT software.  Many state forms are not finalized either.  No reason to be in a rush.  The IRS will not be accepting returns until January 29 at the earliest, so filing early will not get you a faster refund.  The earliest refunds will not be released until mid to late February.  You just have to wait for the forms to be ready.

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1908854-forms-availability-table-for-turbotax-federal-products-exc...

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1908857-forms-availability-table-for-turbotax-state-except-busines...

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/2018-tax-filing-season-begins-jan-29-tax-returns-due-april-17-help-avai...

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Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

Please do not try to use your pay stub to prepare your tax return.  It will not match the W-2 that you will get from your employer in just a few short weeks.  You employer has until the end of January to give you your W-2.  By waiting for your W-2 you will be able to file accurately.  If you try to guess what goes in the “boxes” and mess up your return, you will need to amend.  It takes about 4 months to amend a tax return.  The IRS is not accepting returns yet, so you can wait for your W-2.  

You may be aware that in late December Congress passed a major tax reform bill.  That has the IRS scrambling to get tax return forms ready for this tax filing season.  They were waiting for the laws to pass.

Some forms are not finalized so you cannot file.  The IRS has to finalize a number of forms and then approve the finalized forms in the TT software.  Many state forms are not finalized either.  No reason to be in a rush.  The IRS will not be accepting returns until January 29 at the earliest, so filing early will not get you a faster refund.  The earliest refunds will not be released until mid to late February.  You just have to wait for the forms to be ready.

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1908854-forms-availability-table-for-turbotax-federal-products-exc...

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1908857-forms-availability-table-for-turbotax-state-except-busines...

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/2018-tax-filing-season-begins-jan-29-tax-returns-due-april-17-help-avai...

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

No, you should wait for your W-2 to prepare your return

The information on the W-2 does not always match the final paystub.

See Can I File Using My Last Paystub?


Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

Yes you can use your final pay stub. However, if you aren’t familiar with doing taxes I would not attempt to figure out what goes where. 

A W-2 is more concise and puts everything in its appropriate form. The IRS is accepting some returns/forms. As of today mine has been accepted. 

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

The IRS is only accepting a very few forms now for testing, but no refunds will be issued early.

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

Correct, as was previously stated.

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

The IRS has stated that one should NOT file with just a paystub.

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

First the values on the paycheck and W-2 almost always differ somewhat and the IRS wants an exact match. (For example: Your paycheck (or paystub) will show your total wage.  The W-2 box 1 will show the *taxable* wage, that can be different, and the non-taxable p[art will be reported in other boxes on the W-2.)

This can delay any refund by weeks.

You also will not know what to enter for the various boxes on the W-2.

Employers had until Jan 31 to issue the W-2.   If it is different you will probably have to amend which takes about 4 months to process.

If you mail file then you are required to attach a copy of the W-2 to the tax return or the IRS will return it to you unprocessed.  While you are not required to submit W-2's with e-filed returns, you still must have the W-2 in your possession since the IRS can ask for it when they review your e-filed return.

If you do not receive your W-2 by February 14, then you can use your paycheck and file a 4852 form, but you must follow the IRS rules in order to do so.

[Paraphrased from IRS rules]
Can you  file without having received your W-2?  Yes, but only if you have not received it by February 23, and you have contacted your employer and attempted to obtain it, and you still have not received it by February 23, and then you contact the IRS (see the link below), then if the IRS is not successful in getting your W-2, you can use form 4852 in place of your W-2. But you MUST speak to the IRS before doing so.  Otherwise,  you cannot file before you receive your W-2.

<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-can-help-taxpayers-get-form-w-2">https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-c...>
**Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

NOTICE: 2018 and 2017 ANSWER NOT UPDATED FOR 2019 !!!! 

Intuit keeps these older answers so you have to be careful to recognize its age.

 

Tax Refund Schedule - and Filing with Paycheck Stub without W-2
UPDATED FOR 2018 Tax Year (January 2019) -  Every Year, Most Folks really don't like this answer but it is the truth!!!

Certainly, you can start entering all the various personal data that you have, and if you want to try to guess what your Form W-2 will look like and also any Forms1099 that you might receive, such as Interest Income, feel free to do so for ESTIMATION purposes only.

However, read this post to learn why others have found it to be a very serious mistake to go ahead and submit your filing before you have gotten all your W-2s and 1099s.  
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IRS PROCESSING DATES  - starts (as of now) on January 28, 2019

AND REFUND DATES - Unclear - Speak to Congress

January 11, 2019 - UPDATE

IRS PROCESSING STARTS 1/28/2019  JANUARY 28, 2019

SUBMITTALS TO TURBOTAX SIT 'pending" AT TURBOTAX AND ARE SUBMITTED WHEN IRS STARTS.

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JANUARY 11, 2019 UPDATE:  Federal Adminstration says it can make IRS workers process refunds even while not paying workers.

- MAYBE OUTDATED IF CONGRESS OR COURTS ALLOW IRS TO WORK WITHOUT PAY

OUTDATED  1/4/2019: REFUND SCHEDULE LIKELY DELAYED BY GOVERNMENT SHUDOWN!!

JANUARY 4, 2019 UPDATE: Major news services have all reported that the IRS, with only 12% of its workforce currently being able to work (without pay), will be able to receive tax filings as of the original late January, 2019, date, BUT no refunds can be processed nor a schedule of refunds be available until the Federal Goverment shutdown ends and IRS employees are allowed back to work on the task of processing the refunds to be sent out.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/millions-could-face-severe-cuts-to-food-stamps-due-to-government-shutdo...
https://www.businessinsider.com/irs-tax-refund-delay-partial-government-shutdown-2019-1?utm_source=f...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-delay-irs-tax-filing-and-refund-brings-chaos-just-b...
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/04/what-the-federal-shutdown-could-mean-for-tax-season.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/03/business/treasury-irs-shutdown-refund/index.html

What will this mean?  Rushing to file is guaranteed to not speed your refund and if you jump the gun without your W-2, has a great chance of delaying because your data will be wrong and you will have to file a paper Amended 1040X which the shutdown IRS will not even touch for months.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ALREADY JUMPED THE GUN IN JANUARY, 2019, AND ARE FACING A VERY BIG DELAY, PROBABLY GETTING A NASTY LETTER FROM THE IRS AND HAVING TO FILE 1040X 

Don't be like these people who now got themselves a big headache:
2019 UPDATE OF "How do I fix this because I did not use my W-2 when it finally arrived?" 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4518511-i-accidentally-put-in-my-2017-w-2-instead-of-my-2018-w-2-h...
https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4169486-can-i-change-my-return-if-i-already-submitted-it-and-you-r...
https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4518463-what-do-i-do-if-i-entered-incorrect-tax-amounts-and-submit...

NO! You cannot change your filing once you hit "submit" and file
https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4169486-can-i-change-my-return-if-i-already-submitted-it-and-you-r...

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##  Look Folks, I'm a retired Jake - firefighter - and not an employee of Intuit. I've got no ax in this argument -           
##  just telling you the simple truth.  Some folks will file based on copying information from their last                          
##  paycheck and they won't get into trouble, others and in fact many more others will find that they                         
##  created trouble for themselves and also delayed their refund.  So do as you want, I'm just here to try to help.       
##                                                                                                                                                                                    
##  SHORT ANSWER: NO!  Don't use your paycheck stub instead of waiting a little time for your W-2!            
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##                                  WHY?  Because you won't get your refund any faster and probably slower!         
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##.    >>> DON'T AGREE?  SCROLL DOWN TO LINKS BELOW TO READ WHAT FOLKS WHO FILED 
##.           EARLY LAST YEAR   THEN HAD TO SAY WHEN THEY CRIED HELP!
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DISAGREE?  DON'T LIKE SHORT ANSWER?  READ ON!  Hey, Look I know a lot of us want that refund as fast as it is possible to get it - and for good reason.  But using your paycheck stub instead of the Form W-2 can cause you to overpay taxes, or delay your refund, or be the opportunity to have correspondence from the IRS.  So the answer to "Can I use my last paycheck stub instead of W-2?" is "Do so at your own risk and you will likely regret it for any one of several reasons!"  
=========>>>>>> Don't believe me?  Scroll down to near bottom and read how others last year really fouled up their own taxes and refunds!!!!!  Check out the links of posts from last year! Use a paycheck stub and risk serious problems - getting an audit/inquiry letter from the IRS - having your refund delayed -  and having to file an Amended Return Form 1040X (& this is really a "Delight!")

If you want to use your last pay stub simply for estimation - that's fine, but if you want to use it to actually file your taxes -then that is certainly your choice but before you do that - please read what follows (REALLY!).  Yes, I know it is a long answer but it covers the questions of  1) Filing without a W-2;  
2) Tax Refund Schedule  and 
3)  Earned Income or Additional Child Credit - delays in refund
4)  W-2 Importing will be available sooner that the printed form - probably by second week of January.

5)  TurboTax Advertising "Accepting Returns" as opposed to actually being processed6)  Forms 1099-INT DIV and B for Interest Earned, Dividends Received, and any investments
While many folks really do need that refund money as soon as possible, and I understand that totally, be patient unless you want to become an expert in learning how to file an amended return - the Dreaded Form 1040X!  
READ==>>: To prove the point, you can scroll down to near bottom and read just a few of the requests for help posted earlier   - examples of TurboTax users who filed without a W-2 for last year, and then had to ask for help in filing an Amended Form 1040X which is printed, mailed, and almost guaranteed to be audited:

It is certainly up to you to do what you want when it comes to the subject of going forward with your last pay stub in hand or waiting the several days to several weeks to get your real actual Form W-2 , and the electronic download and import of the W-2 may be available much earlier than the paper form and it avoids any possible error! 

Don't forget the W-2 is also submitted to the IRS by your employer.  If you are an employee with any type of employee benefit, paid either by your employer or by monies withheld from you, the problem is that the W-2 may not report the same monies as show on your last paycheck stub.

If you have Bank or other interest, you need to wait to receive, or be able to access online at your bank or financial service company, the Form 1099-INT - generally by end of January but usually earlierIf you have any type of investment that produces Dividends or you sold any investments, you need to wait for the availability of Forms 1099-DIV and 1099-B  [DIV by end of January but usually earlier]

TAX PROCESSING AND REFUND DATES:  See Attached Image at the bottom!
TurboTax advertises that it "Accepts" your filing usually in the first week of January but it does nothing with it and you cannot go back to it and change it if you find you failed to report any income!!

Most of the "SuperUsers" on this blog are long-time practitioners in tax filing or tax accounting but we are NOT employees of TurboTax or connected to it.  Our uniform recommendation is to wait for the reasons below.  Every year we see folks come back asking for help in filing an Amended Tax Return, Form 1040X, because they made the decision to file using only a paycheck stub.

I accept the argument that certain tax preparation services, which shall remain nameless except for the court cases they have lost and the fines that they have paid in this matter, are perfectly happy to suggest that you can (You can read at the bottom here where the IRS clearly says it is a violation to offer to file for you without Form W-2 in hand!).

WHY NOT? The problem is that if you use your "last paycheck stub" as an estimator of what you think will be on the W-2, there is a great chance you will guess wrong. This is particularly true if you have either some form of benefit such as a cafeteria plan or insurance [non-medical] most particularly life insurance, or you have any type of deferred compensation or savings plan, such as a 401(k), 403(b) or the like. The last paycheck stub dollar amounts in total will likely be right for gross income but the allocation may well change because when the W-2 is issued, some monies paid to you are recharacterized and appear in other boxes than you expected.

So, WHAT'S THE RISK? If you guess wrong by using the last paycheck and the numbers don't match up, you will get the opportunity to receive an audit inquiry from the IRS and you will have the wonderful opportunity to learn the magical mysteries of filing an amended Form 1040X and the equivalent state form which is often even more mystical and challenging.

WHAT'S the GAIN? Not much because the IRS doesn't start processing and accepting your filing until mid-January [for TY 2018 the start date is JANUARY 21, 2019, at the earliest [see note re: Federal shutdown]***See Schedule in image at bottom****  and that is only if you do not  claim certain itemized deductions [on Schedule A] or do not file for Earned Income Credit or additional Child Tax Credits.  [If you do file for these credits or benefits, please note that  the IRS pays special attention to these credits, which have been abused in past years.]  
 
So rushing to file will not mean an earlier refund simply because the IRS will not have even started processing

The problem is that there is a great chance you will either leave money on the table [over paid with no good reason and now lose it] or you will underpay taxes [and risk being audited because your income does not match the reported]

HOWEVER, 
IF you have not received your W-2 yet, and it would seem unlikely since you are probably reading this in late December or early January, and W-2's typically start showing up late in the second week of January, you are strongly advised to wait.  In fact, have you checked to see if by the end of the first week of January or in the second week, you can download/import your W-2 automatically and without error?

Your W-2 may and typically does contain information and values not in your paycheck, so attempting to file without the official form is a pretty good predictor that you will either leave money on the table with the IRS or else get a letter saying you didn't leave enough - neither is a good situation.

Further, if you are filing by printing and mailing in, you can't without submitting a copy.

While many folks really do need that refund money as soon as possible, be patient unless you want to become an expert in learning how to file an amended return! 


Examples of PRIOR YEAR  WHOOPS! Filing without a W-2:

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/3034261-i-filed-using-my-last-pay-stub-not-knowing-now-my-refund-i...  Use Paycheck Stub - have delayed refund - exactly!

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2941037-i-already-e-filed-using-my-last-paycheck-and-now-i-got-my-...   -Overstated his income and therefore paid too much in tax

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2936121-i-let-someone-talk-me-into-using-my-check-stub-and-just-go...  Another who overpaid his  taxes.

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/3027748-irs-said-for-me-to-send-in-my-w2-becae-i-used-my-last-payc...   Greetings from the IRS!

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/3082790-my-w-2-and-my-final-paycheck-do-not-match-what-should-i-do  Hmmm. The W-2 numbers are not the same as on my paycheck stub!

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/3350554-i-guestimated-my-gross-income-from-one-w-2-and-it-was-high...  Whoops!

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2143400-my-last-paycheck-stub-shows-a-different-amount-than-my-w2-...  The typical problem and now it's too late - Welcome to Form 1040X

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2997549-w-2-total-different-than-last-pay-stub-cause-of-cafateria-...  and he did not mean a coffee shop!

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2120101-based-on-one-of-my-last-pay-stubs-i-made-more-than-what-is...   Catch it before you file without W-2

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1958950-i-have-not-received-my-w2-yet-but-was-doing-my-taxes-from-...  More overpayment of taxes

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2970896-estimated-w-2-with-pay-stub-got-w-2-want-to-correct-return  Another oportunity to learn about Amending and Form 1040X


For any tax-preparer to state that they can prepare and file your tax return without a W-2 is a violation of law.   Read below.
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Instruction by IRS to Preparers:  Not allowed to prepare and file without W-2
Publication 1345, Handbook for Authorized IRS e-file Providers for Individual Income Tax Returns when it states:
"EROs must not electronically file individual income tax returns prior to receiving Forms W-2, W-2G or 1099-R. If the taxpayer is unable to secure and pro­vide a correct Form W-2 . . . the ERO may electronically file the return after the taxpayer completes Form 4852, Substitute for Form W-2, Wage and Tax Statement . . . If Form 4852 is used, the non-standard W-2 indicator must be included in the record, and the ERO must maintain Form 4852 in the same manner required for Forms W-2, W-2G and 1099-R."1
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Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

Can i use my last paystub

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

many times the last paystub does not contain all the info required to properly file your tax return. then you'll have to amend. besides the IRS has not opened up filing for 2021.  also not all forms are final which would prevent filing in the first place. don't be in a rush to file. many that did for 2020 found themselves waiting six months or more for their refund. 

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

FIRST …by law you are required to have the W-2 in you possession prior to filing for 3 reasons:

 

1) You must physically attach a copy of the W-2 to a mailed tax return.

 

2) If you e-file you must retain the W-2 because the IRS can request that you send it to them at any time to verify the information so it must be in your possession.

 

3) You sign the tax return (either on paper or electronically) that the tax return  is complete and accurate under penalty of perjury and without all the W-2 box information that can only be obtained from the actual W-2, it will not be complete or accurate.

 

Then …aside from being illegal …   filing before your employer issues a W-2 is unwise for many reasons :

 

1)  the info on the paystub will not match the W2 in most cases  AND this will trigger an IRS audit  AND/OR  require you to amend the return which is a pain

 

2)  the IRS will not process any return until they have the info from the employer to match to your return so filing early just puts you in a holding pattern with millions of others which can delay your return for weeks

 

3)  any return with EIC or ACTC is automatically delayed in processing until after 2/15 no matter when you send in the return ... and in the past the early filers got stuck in the aforementioned holding pattern  and their refunds were delayed

 

4)  once again the tax forms have been redesigned so delays or bugs in the system will  need to be worked out ...  filing before these have been corrected can delay your return's processing as recent past history has proven ... in the case of the IRS the early bird doesn't usually get the worm, it only gets an un ripened apple.  

 

 

Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

Okay well I use my last stub because my w 2 say 0 withholding I only pay into ssdi and the rest I pay out of my return when I file using my last stub! It's the way my employment works ! I been waiting for a w 2 that will look almost same as last year! And it's directs me to use my last check stub! Why would I need to wait 

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Can I use my last pay check stub and file today?

You need to realize that your refund will be at the same time whether you file today or Jan 31. As long as you are accepted by Jan 31, the refund is issued Feb 11, provided you have no EIC, CTC, stimulus, etc things that have to be cross checked that delay the refund by 2-3 weeks. Hopefully, you can get your w2 online, in a paycheck, or in the mail soon!

 

The IRS goes in one week cycles so if you miss a Monday, you have until the next Monday to get your return accepted for the same payout day.

 

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