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The mortgage interest limit is calculated based on your average mortgage balance for the entire year, not individually to each loan. In this situation, you will want to calculate the average monthly balance for each loan and report that as your outstanding mortgage principal. You can do this by taking the Outstanding Mortgage Principal reported in Box 2, multiplying it by the number of months you carried the loan, and dividing that number by 12. Do this for both loans and report the calculated number as the Outstanding Mortgage Principal:
TurboTax calculates the average balance by taking the average of the outstanding mortgage principal on Form 1098 and your balance due on January 1, 2022. By reporting your calculated average balance for both, it will apply the mortgage limit based on that amount.
Terrible, really.
Line 18 of the worksheet has an error. It multiplies line 14 by 17, instead of line 13 by 15 as the instruction says. So either the instruction is wrong, or the result is wrong.
this is true but if you're exception to the rule, i believe it's not averaging the amounts correctly.
Still an issue. Bought a house this year, and TT seems to be summing up the mortgage amount? This is a common situation!
Called TurboTax and they advised me to pay for expert tax help, and said it doesn't matter if it's a software bug and they don't care about your woes. CSR recommended paying for extension until they "might" fix the bug later on. Did live support and they said they would transfer me to tax expert for free if it turns out to be software bug... and then they disconnected on me.
TLDR for all others scrambling to finish their taxes on time. I had the situation where i sold a home and bought a new home. I deleted the interest form from the old home and only entered the new one. On the deductible home mortgage interest worksheet, I override question 19 with the interest of the old home since it's "excluded" from limitation. and then I added the property tax paid for the old home under "other property tax". so simple workaround, surprised they couldn't fix the form...
I get a 404 error when I click on this link. Are you planning to fix this? As others have said, this has been the situation for years and this year I cannot even override the entries in the Deductible Mortgage worksheet
The worksheets are not a part of the return. You can make one correct entry instead. Your goal is to file an accurate return.
See About Publication 936, Home Mortgage Interest Deduction part II on page 9. Use page 12 to combine all loans. Only one table 1 is used for all of your loans in one place. The instructions to go through line by line are after the table. There are examples throughout to help you.
Page 13 has mixed-use mortgages.
@sapountzis
The only way I could fix the problem was to stop the step bu step directions and go to the worksheet. It apparently imported info incorrectly from the step by step. Once I corrected on the worksheet, all became correct on the return
Hi All -
I think there may be some ideas getting conflated here, but I do believe the mortgage interest limitation worksheet is incorrect (both in TurboTax and the IRS provided worksheet in the publication). As an FYI, I am a tax attorney (but M&A, so I am not well versed with individual taxes, but I do read and interpret tax law all day). Also, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, so I got that going for me.
Internal Revenue Code Section 163(h) says that, generally speaking, interest is tax deductible on acquisition indebtedness up to interest attributable to $1M in loan principal. This applies to home loans from 1987 to 2017 (assuming you are a calendar year taxpayer). For loans taken out after December 31, 2017, this limit/cap is reduced to $750k in principal. See Section 163(h)(3)(F)(II). More importantly, see Section 163(h)(3)(F)(III), which I have directly pasted below (fuscia font is my clarifying commentary; bold, underline, etc. for emphasis:(
I interpret the above to say two critical things:
The IRS worksheet and TurboTax are combining the pre-2018 and post-2017 acquisition indebtedness and applying the 750k limit. This to me is incorrect based on the tax law as written. As noted above, it clearly states the $750k limit should not be applied to pre-2018 acquisition indebtedness, full stop. So for people who have both kinds of acquisition indebtedness in a single tax year (likely because they sold an old house and bought a new one), interest attributable to the pre-2018 acquisition indebtedness should be tax deductible up to the $1M principal cap, and to the extent that interest is deducted, the 750k limit applicable to post-2017 acquisition indebtedness should be reduced by the principal of the pre-2018 acquisition indebtedness that interest was deducted for.
For my fact pattern (sold a house with pre-2018 loan in 2021, bought a new house a week later with a 2021 loan), this is incorrect tax treatment and haircutting my allowable mortgage interest deductions substantially. I am not sure of a solution in the software, but presumably I will need to hardcode a number in somewhere.
Sincerely welcome any feedback/solutions here.
TurboTax needs to fix this as this is certainly a bust in my eyes.
Thanks.
You figure out a solution here? I definitely think what TurboTax and the IRS worksheet is doing is incorrect.
In the program, there is a pop-up box which explains to use the original date for the refinanced loan to get the grandfather rule. Otherwise, you will not get the deduction. This is only true if the refinanced debt does not exceed the debt balance at the time of refinancing.
@SDD52
Not a refinance. I sold my home with a pre-2018 mortgage, bought another home the same year with what is obviously a post-2017 mortgage.
Are you saying report the mortgage on the sold property as a refinance to get the system to comply?
This is still unacceptably broken. If you're considering buying TT and have a mortgage that may be sold from one bank to another (anyone), don't buy TT.
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