Does Form 8812 need to be accompanied with Schedule EIC to prove "qualifying children" ?

[forinterest]

Form 8812 uses  the number of "qualifying children" in its calculations, yet Schedule EIC is the form of proof of qualifying children for the EIC. IF someone doesn't qualify for the EIC for other reasons, should they file Schedule EIC or does form 8812 stand alone?

[xmasbaby0]

You are confusing the child tax credit with earned income credit.   Form 8812 is for the child tax credit:

https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/taxation/schedule-8812/L1i1Rk489_US_en_U...

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1900923-what-is-the-child-tax-credit

https://www.irs.gov/help/ita/does-my-childdependent-qualify-for-the-child-tax-credit-or-the-credit-f...

If you had income earned from working and you have dependent children, you may also be eligible for the earned income credit.

 Earned Income Credit—-the rules are back to the “old” rules—

Those under 25 and over 65 without children are not eligible as they were uniquely in 2021.   And you cannot use your income from any earlier tax year to get the EIC for a 2022 return.  There is no “lookback” for 2022.  EIC for 2022 will be based on the income you earned by working in 2022.

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1899157-what-are-the-qualifications-for-the-earned-income-credit-e...

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/individuals/earned-income-tax-credit/use-the-eitc-assistant

Look at your 2022 Form 1040 to see the child-related credits you received

PREVIEW 1040

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901539-how-do-i-preview-my-turbotax-online-return-before-filing

Child Tax Credit line 19

Credit for Other Dependents line 19

Earned Income Credit line 27

Additional Child Tax Credit line 28

[forinterest]

I was not expecting an answer that fast. Thank you!

I am not confused between the child tax credits and the EIC, only if I have to use that form to prove "qualifying children".

But right after I posted the question, I remembered the "Additional Dependent Statement" for form 1040, and that has a check box that indicates "Qualifying Child for Child Tax Credit"  So I suppose that is all that is needed for the child tax credit - eh?

[forinterest]

to be more clear, I am only interested in the child tax credit at this time.  I don't have any questions regarding the  EIC, except that Schedule EIC was in the list of "Forms", but the individual doesn't qualify for the EIC, so I wondered if the form was there as an idle calculation or if it is required to prove "qualifying children" for other credits.   It's hard to be clear under pressure and deadlines.  Thanks again.

[xmasbaby0]

Make sure you have entered your child as a dependent in My Info, and that you have entered the child's Social Security number.    Careful— do not say that your child’s SSN is not valid for employment.  If your child was born in 2022 make sure you said he lived with you the whole year.  There is an oddly worded question that asks if the child paid over half their own support.  Say NO to that question.