What is hell is intuit doing telling me I have to upgrade to Win 11, I don't want that POS, they said it's for security, That's OK, i'll take my chances with Win 10.

[Jay_H]

Just confirmed that H&R Block 2025 will support Windows 10, and will not discontinue Windows 10 support any time soon.

[VolvoGirl]

@Jay_H   How did you confirm it?  Do you have a link?  Because I think  you need to ask for 2026 not 2025.  It looks like HRB calls the program by the year you file in, not the tax return year.  Like this article says 2025 will be available in Nov 2024...2024.

https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/support/software/software-tax-filing/before-filing-software-retur... 

[vetz76]

And you can import your TT data: https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/support/online/technical-issues-online/deluxe-import-issues-from-...

[vetz76]

As of today it looks like TT is staying with their misguided decision not to run TT on WIN 10 machines.

Bunch of dumb asses.

[vetz76]

Well, I just got a free continuation of Microsoft security updates till Oct. 2026, so is TT going to still force us to Win 11 or back down since anyone can get the continued security updates?

[Mike9241]

as of now yes you'll be forced to upgrade to w11 unless you use online. No one knows if Turbotax will change its mind but considering 1) how late in the year it is and there is much coding that needs to be done due to tax law changes and 2) Turbotax would have thoroughly analyzed what it would lose in net income from desktop customers who wouldn't upgrade or use online (switch to a competitor's product compatible with w10 or so)  vs what it would make up from those that would switch to the higher priced online, and concluded bye-bye to those that wouldn't switch. or upgrade. 

there are ways to keep w10 and upgrade a non-compliant computer. 

1) dual boot (both OS present on separate drives or partitions but only one OS can be used at a time or

2) crate a virtual machine both OSs work at the same time because cores and memory a specially allocated to each OS

i did 1) tried 2) but it consistently failed even tried three different VM apps

I have no guarantee the TT2025 will install on the W11 drive 

[BobRay]

I very much doubt it. I think they really want to drive people to the online version. Having to support two different versions of an app is a huge pain in the ass even for fairly simple apps (which TT is definitely not).

[JohnQT]

A few minutes ago I used the New Virtual Machine wizard in Oracle VirtualBox to create a brand new Windows 11 Home Edition VM.  All I had to do was supply a password for the default user account and a Setup key for that edition of Windows 11.  The wizard automatically created a VM with two CPUs and 4 GB of RAM, including a virtual EFI-style BIOS and virtual TPM chip.  It took about 10 minutes from start to finish, including automatically signing into Windows and opening that fancy new Start menu (see screenshot below).

I still plan to try and outsmart the TurboTax installer so that I can continue to keep running TT in my current Windows 10 VM.  But if that turns out to be too difficult then I will either do an in-place upgrade of that VM to Windows 11, or just let VirtualBox create another VM like this one.  In the meantime I'm going to delete this VM as there is simply too much unnecessary baggage with the regular Windows consumer editions.  If Windows 11 become unavoidable then I'll create a VM running an Enterprise or Education edition instead.

[JohnQT]

P.S. @Mike9241 if you or anyone else actually goes the route of a physical dual-boot setup then there should be absolutely no reason why TurboTax for TY2025 wouldn't install into the booted Windows 11 OS.  If for some reason TT Setup refuses to do that then at that point it would be time to just jump ship completely off TurboTax and onto another product (with hopefully a competent engineering and marketing team).

[Mike9241]

@JohnQT to install the W11 (dual boot mode) on a completely noncompliant computer the workaround was to use an app that hacked the registry regarding the use of secure boot, the presence of tpm 2.0 and a compliant cpu.  whether Turbotax can or will add code to verify that the computer is indeed W11 compliant is unknown.  the other problem is that i have many apps, some of which the vendor is no longer around for download or I no longer have the CD, so they cannot be added to the w11 drive. as i mentioned I tried different apps to try to create a VM so dual boot would not be necessary, but every method failed.  

I suspect that sooner or later other apps will require w11 so I think this may be a temporary fix.