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Great summarization, Thanks
I saw a list where it said the release was going to be 1-12-23, but nothing changed with the update I did on 1-12-23. Hoping the 1-19-23 date will have this form updated because it is not working right at this time.
I was planning to calculate my estimated tax liability before January 17th. However, this issue is holding it up. In the meantime, I think you can use the Contribution amount on form 8962 (which seems to be correct) and subtract the premiums you have already paid to estimate your repayment amount.
Same. I ended up building the applicable form 8962 lines in an excel spreadsheet to have a document of how I arrived at what I think the amounts will be to get our estimates worked out. Want the form in TT to work soon though to make sure I'm not way off!
The reason for estimates is to reduce or eleminate the under withholding penalty even if you will owe on the tax return.
You must make quarterly estimated tax payments for the current tax year (or next year) if both of the following apply:
- 1. You expect to owe at least $1,000 in tax for the current tax year, after subtracting your withholding and credits.
- 2. You expect your withholding and credits to be less than the smaller of:
90% of the tax to be shown on your current year’s tax return, or
100% of the tax shown on your prior year’s tax return. (Your prior year tax return must cover all 12 months.)
So to avoid a penalty you just need to cover the amount in option 2 ... pay in 100% of the prior year tax liability which is a known figure and if you want pay in more so you owe less in April.
If you are trying to do some 2022 tax planning then use the fully operational 2021 downloaded version.
This is my mini version of a tutorial that should be in the downloaded program:
Forms Mode lets you view and make changes to your tax forms "behind the scenes."
If you're adventurous, you can even prepare your return in Forms Mode, but we don't recommend it. You may miss obscure credits and deductions you qualify for, and you may forget to report things that will come back and haunt you later.
Forms Mode is exclusively available in the TurboTax CD/Download software. It is not available in TurboTax Online.
If you want to play around with different figures and tax scenarios without affecting your original return you can ….
Once you have filed successfully … you can shut off the auto updater function and then save the return & .taxfile.
For Windows, up in the top menu, you can set the "Updater Preferences" to "Always Ask" or more commonly set to "I don't have an internet connection" (even if you do), and then you are not forced to update....and can manually force an update when you choose to do so. And then you can open the file(s) at any time with no forced upgrade.
But that's the Windows software.....not a MAC. For a MAC you cannot turn off the auto updater HOWEVER you can simply disconnect from the internet before opening the tax return.
It's always a good idea to make a backup copy of your tax data file, in case your original gets lost or corrupted. Here's how:
If you make changes to your original tax return file, repeat these steps to ensure your original and backup copies are in-synch.
AND save it as a PDF so you have access to a copy even if you don’t have the program still installed and operational :
AND protect the files :
*** Other clues to the downloaded program ***
In the forms mode ... double click or right click on a box on a form to data source it ... sadly it doesn't work on all boxes.
When you look at an onscreen tax form using Forms Mode, you might wonder why one figure is blue and the one next to it is red or black.
These colors indicate the source of that data.
Color | Meaning |
Blue | You entered this data, either in the interview or Forms Mode. |
Black | The program entered this data or calculated this amount. |
Red | This data has either been overridden or is invalid (for example, a ZIP code that doesn't exist). |
Red italics | You marked this amount as estimated. |
Black italics | The program calculated this amount from an amount you marked as estimated. |
Purple | This information has supporting details. |
Aquamarine | This data was transferred over from last year. |
Green | This data was imported from Quicken or QuickBooks. |
Yellow fields (Windows) | Yellow fields allow user input. Anything you enter here shows up in blue. |
PRIOR YEAR USE OF A SUPPORTING DETAILS WORKSHEET :
If you find you have a $0 in an entry field that cannot be changed … this issue is almost always one in which you used a "Supporting Details" (SD) sheet in that field in the prior year. What happens is that when you transfer in the prior year's data, the SD sheet is transferred too, but empty...and that causes the $0 to show up in many areas of the Step-by-Step mode interview....wherever the SD sheet was used before.
But when switching to Forms Mode, when you try to enter a $$ amount in a field where the SD sheet is attached, the SD sheet will pop up immediately, and you can either enter the $$ amount on that sheet, or delete the SD sheet entirely and avoid future issues (unless you really want the SD sheet)
Sometimes, when you see the $0 in Step-by-Step, you can just
Basically, the law is the same as for 2021. So, I am not sure why this feature broke in this year's TurboTax release.
My income is over the 400% level, so i'm getting the same issue. If I temporarily lower my income so that it's only 395% then form 8962 calculates as it should. I guess we'll have to wait until TT or the IRS correct for all of us. I still haven't received my official 1095A from my state, so no biggie for now. (:
Do we think that the TT people are working on this issue? It makes me nervous that it is working if using the under 400% testing. I could not find a way to actually ask a person at Intuit the question, only this community. Also the Healthcare.gov site had our 1095-A available by January 5 just as an FYI.
I spent 45 minutes trying to get a tech yesterday, and when I did, they kept trying to screen share my PC to see what I was doing wrong. It took me a long time to get through to him that the form was not working. The response was 'try later.' All I wanted to do was pass along that the form is still broken for those over 400%.
Today the form looks up on the forms availability page with big green YES check marks under "Ready for print?" and "Ready to File?"
As a former software engineer, Im shocked that there isn't a pre-release test case for each major path through that form.
@rjs Form 8962 is now listed as Complete and Ready to File in their system, but it's still calculating wrong. What is our best course of action? This seems like a bug that won't get addressed without some sort of escalation up the tree to the right decision makers.
This is the link to the actual IRS discussion on the premium tax credit. It was lifted for tax years 2021 and 2022 for the 400% income limits. TurboTax is NOT working right for 2022. Not sure how to get this fixed.
@MichelleLO @xmasbaby0 You both provided advice on another issue with the program, I am reaching out to see if you have any insight into this problem with Form 8962. It doesn't populate from Form 1095-A if income is above the 400% of poverty amount. This is not correct!!! We are eligible for ACA credits in 2022, just like 2021. The form is currently indicating it is ready to file, but for many of us it is not.
Can someone please comment on a fix for this?? Please!
I'll point a couple more things that I noticed:
So the current software version doesn't even include the property FPL, so it can't properly calculate the tax credits for ANYONE.
Also, whoever marked that long response about editing in Forms mode, please undo that! That's going to make TT think this is resolved, and it's a big problem that will affect millions of returns.
I'm on the call back to try to communicate with an actual human about this. Hoping to make "noise" about getting this fixed.
I am having the same issue, and cannot override the entries on Line 11. Here is the section showing that the 1095-A info is not carried over. I wish Turbo Tax had the staff resources to fix this. It is simple programming. Are you listening, TurboTax? Some of us need to make estimated tax payments by Jan 17th, and count on your software for mocking up our draft returns!
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