IRS saids we have to claim other 600.00 on tax return how do we do that in is the paper work ava. at this time???

[Opus 17]

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@NCperson wrote:

I think not asking about garnishments for Stim #1 is a problem - it asked for the EXACT amount received and doesn't make mention of adjusting if there was a garnishment; I beleive that will cause TT to give you back all the money that was garnished.  

how does that feedback get to the Lounge or an Administrator?

@VolvoGirl @Critter-3 

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I already posted it privately, it may not happen.  The program quality people are notoriously conservative, and I think that since option 1 is check your 1444 and option 3 is check the IRS web site, both of which should show the ungarnished amount, they may consider that good enough.  (Further, I suspect that not having the correct amount will cause an efile rejection.)

[NCperson]

thanks 

but the wording does ask for the 'exact' amount of the payment.

[DoninGA]

@NCperson The Recovery Rebate Credit Worksheet on Line 16 is specific - Enter the amount, if any, of EIP 1 that was issued to you (before offset for any past-due child support payment)

TurboTax should use the same verbiage.  Hopefully it will get changed.

[NCperson]

@DoninGA Yup, that makes A LOT of sense!! 

[VolvoGirl]

Duh, I was making a screen shot and just noticed that the screen does say to enter 0 if you didn't get it.  But it's good to know.  Do you think users will miss it and not enter it?  

[NCperson]

@VolvoGirl - that is why I asked if it created an error for leaving it blank, which they all are as the new software is introduced.... if the field is left blank (hence the error), as long as that causes TT to send the user to fix it, then all will be required fix it and no one will miss it.   see where I am going?

[VolvoGirl]

This thread seems to be a good one to use for questions since I don't have access to the back room.  Just testing in my program.   One scenario,

If you got the the first 2,400 but not the 500 for child so it s/b 2,900. 

But then made too much in 2020 to get any or a reduced amount (say $300)

You don't get the extra 500 for the first one and nothing for the second because you already got 2,400.

So first and second are cumulative?

You actually got 2,100 too much, right?

Is the 300 on worksheet line 15 the total qualified for both or just the second one?   

[Critter-3]

The online in now working but I agree this is a disaster waiting to happen ... I can hear the swearing from the users already as there returns are delayed and corrected due to the misunderstanding on the stimulus screen instructions ... the IRS line 30 worksheet LINE 16  clearly says to enter the payment BEFORE OFFSETS.  This may not be the amount the notice 1444 or 1444-B has listed ...

Enter the amount, if any, of EIP 1 that was issued to you (before offset for any past-due child support payment).
You may refer to Notice 1444 or your tax account information at IRS.gov/Account for the amount to
enter here    

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf  

If history has told us in the past you cannot expect any TT user to READ the fine print at all ... and to have incorrect info on the main page AND the "learn more" links is  just plain SAD. 

Who proof reads this before putting it in service ???   Obviously they don't ask any of us regular posters on this forum as this is something we would have pointed out quickly .... I hope the moderators take heed of this warning and run this issue up the chain ASAP  before anything can be efiled incorrectly. 

[NCperson]

@Critter-3 - suggest all of the 'champs' "bang the table" to get the wording changed.   It's a really bad customer experience as the wording specifically states to enter "the exact amount"  - and it will have the effect of increased the expected refund...whether the IRS catches it prior to issuing the refund or comes back months later after reviewing, it'll be a really bad customer experience that Intuit can "nip in the bud" NOW.

[NCperson]

@VolvoGirl - let me repost your thread and explain 

If you got the the first 2,400 but not the 500 for child so it s/b 2,900. 

But then made too much in 2020 to get any or a reduced amount (say $300)

You don't get the extra 500 for the first one and nothing for the second because you already got 2,400.

So first and second are cumulative?

You actually got 2,100 too much, right?

since you didn't list the income I really can't work through this , but there is no such thing as 'too much' as Congress said no one was going to be asked to return money.

Let me try a different example: 

2018 income $80,000. joint, 1 child

2019 income $75,000 joint 1 child

2020 income $160,000, joint 2 children (one born in 2020)

For the first stimulus payment, the IRS used my 2018 tax return, and I received $2900

for the 2nd stimulus payment, the IRS used my 2019 tax return and I received $1200 - IRS couldn't explain why they left off my child.  The new born isn't the child left off because Baby wasn't on my 2019 tax return,

For my 2020 tax return, here is how EIP is calculated: 

• I was eligible for $3400 on the 1st stimulus payment (2 adults and 2 children) and that is reduced by $500 because my 2020 income is $10,000 over the $150,00 threshold.  So $2900 is the result
• I was eligible for $2400 on the 2nd stimulus payment (2 adults and 2 children) and that is reduced by $500 because my 2020 income is $10,000 over the $150,00 threshold. so $1900

I received $4100 from the Payments and I am eligible for $4800 in EIP.  Line 30 should display $700.... 

I worked this out against the worksheet in the 1040 instructions

Line 5 - $2400

Line 6 - $1000

line 7 - $3400

line 8 - $1200

line 9- $1200

line 10 - $2400

line 11 $160,000

line 12 - $150,000

line 13 - $10,000

line 14 - $500

line 15 - $2900

line 16 - $2900

line 17 - -0-

line 18 - $1900

line 19 - $1200

line 20 - $700

line 21  - $700