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pelayo249
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I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

 
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AnnetteB
Intuit Alumni

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

If you are answering this question because you rented out a portion of your home, you are answering the question only with respect to the portion of the home that was rented, not the portion that was your personal residence.

For example, if you rented a bedroom in your home, you would enter the number of days that it was rented and the number of days that you used that bedroom for personal purposes.  If you held it available for rent only and did not use it personally when it was not rented, then your personal use days would be 0.  Either way, the total of rented and personal days cannot exceed 365. 


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I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

Huh?  How could you rent it out for the whole year (365 days) and also have the whole year personal use?  The total days can not be more than 365 days combined for the whole year.
AnnetteB
Intuit Alumni

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

If you are answering this question because you rented out a portion of your home, you are answering the question only with respect to the portion of the home that was rented, not the portion that was your personal residence.

For example, if you rented a bedroom in your home, you would enter the number of days that it was rented and the number of days that you used that bedroom for personal purposes.  If you held it available for rent only and did not use it personally when it was not rented, then your personal use days would be 0.  Either way, the total of rented and personal days cannot exceed 365. 


Azan23
New Member

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

So if you Rent the house for 365 days but don’t use it personally at all. You will deduct the expenses? Will the expenses will go on schedule E?

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

@Azan23 

 

Yes ... that is how a rental property is reported... on the Sch E ... where all the income and expenses are netted against each other.  

 

If you are new to being a landlord some education is needed :  

 

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p527.pdf

Azan23
New Member

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

So if next year I used the property personally for 100 days and rent it for 10 days. Then it won’t be eligible to be deducted 

Carl
Level 15

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

It is physically impossible to have 365 days of rental use and 365 days of personal use in a calendar year. Please read the below for complete clarification on this. If you do this wrong, your depreciation will be wrong. This will "shaft you royaly" a few years down the road. In the first year of reporting rental property, perfection is not an option. It's an absolute must. There are no exceptions.

 

Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence before, then this date is the day AFTER you moved out.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter "could" have moved in. That should be your "in service" date if you were asked for that. Vacant periods between renters count also PROVIDED you did not live in the house for one single day during said period of vacancy.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days you lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence or 2nd home, after you converted it to a rental.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

RENTAL POPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that add value to the property. Expenses for this are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria must be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must add "real" value to the property. In other words, when  the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a  2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

Read the section about Vacation Homes ... the expenses will be limited to the income and unused expenses will be carried forward.  

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

Thank you Annette.

 

The key words in your response are IN RESPECT TO PORTION OF HOME RENTED.

 

So if I rent the main house and live in the back house. And the main house was rented all year.

 

The days rented is in respect to the main house. And the days rented would be 365. The main house was not used at all for personal use. 

 

The question does not relate to the back house. Correct?

KrisD15
Expert Alumni

I write 365 days of rent and 365 days of personal use and do not accept. What I should do?

Correct.

The program is only asking about your rental, be that the front house or even just a room. 

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