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mattspop
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My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

 
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CatinaT1
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My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

You will enter this with your return since he is your dependent, however if all distributions were used for qualified education expenses, it does not need to be entered.

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My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

I disagree with the answer provided so far. 

 

The 1099Q goes with the tax return of whomever's social security number is on the form; it does not automatically go with the Parent's return. (by contract the 1098T automatically goes on the parent's return, assuming the student is a dependent and Box 1 exceeds Box 5 on this form)

 

The question was whether he needs to file a tax return.

 

If the qualified expenses exceed Box 1 of Form 1099Q, there is no requirement to list this on his tax return. 

 

beyond that, there is no requirement to file a tax return if his total income is the lesser of  a) his earned income +$350 or b) $12,200..... and there were no tax withholdings. 

 

this 1099Q and 1098T stuff is confusing for all 

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

Simple answer: the 1099-Q (in his name and SS#) does NOT mean he has to file a tax return this year.  The 1099-Q is only an informational document and does not need to be "filed".

 

As others have said, if his qualified educational expenses, including room & board, exceed the box 1 amount, of the 1099-Q, there is nothing to report.

 

The 1099-Q does NOT go on your return either.

 

That said, there is a situation where you may want to report some of the 1099-Q, as income, so that you can claim the tuition credit. Read on for details.

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It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $600

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free

60%x600= $360

You have $240 of taxable income (600-360)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

wrryan
Returning Member

My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

Turbotax does calculate a tax on 529 distributions for the student even though it should not.  There is a problem with the program and it has been there for three years.  All three years I have noted it to Turbotax and actually spoke to one of their IT people in the first year I saw it.  They confirmed the problem but did not fix it.  I saw someone say you have to complete the steps of the program carefully, but even adding the 1098-T to my children's returns, which shows the money was all used for qualified distributions, does not fix this.  The option to contact the IT department at Turbotax was removed this year.  They just do not care.

ThomasM125
Expert Alumni

My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

You have to enter the education expenses first in TurboTax, and then when you enter the form 1099-Q form the earnings will not show as taxable to the extent you have qualifying education expenses. 

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wrryan
Returning Member

My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

Tried it.  It still taxes distributions in the program.

wrryan
Returning Member

My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

The program does not acknowledge the entry of the 1098-T even though I can go to that section of the program and pull it up showing me that I entered it.  It shows zero dollars in the line item for the 1098-T entry.  It had done this for the last three years.

Hal_Al
Level 15

My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

If you know that  none of the 529 distribution is taxable; just don't enter the 1099-Q.

 

When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. 

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

Hal_Al
Level 15

My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

Go through the entire education interview until you reach a screen titled "Your Education Expenses Summary".  Click edit next to the student's name. That should take you to a screen “Here’s your Education Summary”. Click edit next to the section you want to change; tuition, in your case (click edit next to the school name).

wrryan
Returning Member

My son received a 1099Q for the 529 plan money we used to pay his tuition. He has never filed a tax return and has no income. Does 1099Q mean he needs to file this year?

So you are doing the calculation to confirm this in the program, which means you enter the 1099-Q and the 1098-T into the program.  Yes, the program should take your qualified distribution out of its calculations but it does not.  Instead it calculates a tax on the distribution not taking the 1098-T into consideration.  You have to manually remove the 1099-Q in order to get the correct tax calculation in program.  Most people using the software do not know this and the program does not explain it.  The program tells you to enter the 1099-Q for the dependent and so does the IRS guidance on 1099-Qs.  Once the calculation is done and it shows all the distribution is qualified it should show zero added tax, but it does not.

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