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I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

 
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Rebecca_1
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I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

 The IRS Integrity and Verification Operations IVO group is delaying a number of taxpayer refunds to screen for identity theft and refund fraud.

Taxpayers identified by the program may receive a 4464C letter from the IVO stating that their tax return is being thoroughly reviewed so that the IRS can ensure the accuracy of return information. The letter states that the IRS may contact the taxpayer or third parties for further information and that if the taxpayer does not hear from the IRS or receive his or her refund within 60 days from the date of the letter, the taxpayer may contact the IRS directly. Once the IRS has completed its review, it may send a full or partial refund or no refund. Whatever the decision, the taxpayer can appeal it.

The IRS has indicated that the letters are part of the screening program to combat stolen identity refund fraud and do not mean the taxpayer has been selected for audit. The IRS uses algorithms similar to a discriminate function system score to detect potential refund fraud.

Certain characteristics are:

  • If the taxpayer is a first-time filer,
  • Receiving a refund unusually larger than the one from a prior year or is receiving W-2 income unexpectedly.

Those are a couple of instances that can trigger an alert to the  IVO to further investigate the taxpayer's return.


Both the IRS and the Department of Justice DOJ Tax Division have increased their efforts to combat stolen identity refund fraud. During an April hearing before Congress, IRS Acting Commissioner Steven Miller said the IRS had stopped 350,000 returns with a total $2.5 billion in fraudulent refunds. In September 2012, the DOJ issued Tax Division Directive 144, which is aimed at increasing cooperation between federal and state governments, and flexibility for U.S. attorneys' offices, to combat stolen identity refund fraud.



I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

TTRebecca- it's not fair to us who have filed the same for years to be held up!!! yet I see no mention of the hack and compromise of customer info that has resulted in hundreds if not, thousands of delays and 4464c letters being sent out. I did my research- Turbo Tax customers are the bulk of the reviews. I have a surgery set up that I was intending on using my money for... This is ridiculous. Also- please offer valid info, this is also found on the IRS website. So you're not really 'helping'. Terrible.
pgranere
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I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

I am NEVER using Turbotax ever ever again.
r6patc
New Member

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

same
da80
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I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

So here is what i can tell u based on my experience. If you rcv'd LTR 4464 in the mail they have 60 days(business days.... dont include Sat/Sun) from the date of the letter to have your issue resolved or by April 15 of that tax year.. Which ever comes first. I will tell you now... This is going to be a loooong slow process. So do not expect you money anytime before April 15. At the most it will finally be processed by April 15 and u will still have to wait at least 21 days after that for u to get you refund and/or DD. First thing you should after rcv'ng this letter is call 877.777.4778 and get at Taxpayer Advocate. Your advocate will be ur liaison between u and the IRS Agent. She stays on top of the agent and push to get things done.  Do not call IRS because the will not tell you anything or help you in anyway because the IRS phone agents know absolutely nothing themselves. Dont ever even waste your time calling n sitting on hold for nothing.They one person that knows about your case is the IRS Agent handling it (FYI.. U will never ever speak to ur IRS Agent the only person that will be in contact with ur agent is ur Taxpayer Advocate). Be prepared to only speak with ur advocate once or maybe twice during that first month. She will have specific dates that she will call so you better have ur phone attached to ur hip on those dates. She may call at 8 in the morning or 9 at night. U do not want to miss her call because if u miss her call, she will leave u a message giving u an update n u wont hear from her again until the next scheduled date. Therefore u wont be able to ask questions or get real info. Also get every bit of paper work that u can. That will speed things up tremendously...Ex: SS cards, Birth Certificates, ID,W2, last paycheck stub, proof of employment & income on the companies letter head,  proof of insurance, proof of overdue bills and disconnect notices. Another thing check ur return and makes sure everything is legit and income can be proven. If not redo ur return correctly and have it on standby just in case because if it is wrong they will give u an opportunity to correct before it is sent for processing without being fined and charged with perjury. And after u fax everything all u can do is wait. The best way to check the process is to view ur transcripts online irs.gov/transcripts. However im letting you know now that the cycle dates and the processing dates mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! Ex: 20150603 or 03-02-2015. Those are just the next time IRS agent has to update progress on the case in the system for her boss. Im just telling u from what i experienced. If everything is on the up n up, u can provide paperwork and proof of income..u will have ur refund by sometime in May at the latest. I posted this to help out anyone who is hoing thru this. I went thru this with no help, no answers, no knowledge, lost of stress, lots crying and left completely in the dark. These forums and the internet provide absolutely nooooooo answers. So save urself the trouble now n stop goggling n stressing urself out. Just do what im telling u and save urself alot of time n stress!

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

Thank you, I think?  I received this 44464C letter that basically says they've got my return and that if I didn't file it to notify them.  I filed January 31st 2018 accepted the same day.  received a very small state tax refund but not the federal tax refund.  I have filed the same way the last few years, claimed my children who are 12 and 14.  I've made 5K less this year in income than the previous year.  I don't understand what all could be the issue.  Nobody has any answers and when I did finally reach the IRS rep all she could tell me was that a letter went out.  There's a delay and that I'd have to wait 45 days past the February 15th processing date for those who claimed child tax credit and earned income credit.  So now we're talking April 1st which is a Sunday.   I am behind on bills, running out of food and decided maybe this 'tax advocate' could help.  Think again.  The criteria has to be more like you're being evicted or your electric is being cut off.  Being behind on bills isn't enough for you to have the help of a Tax Advocate.  You'd think with all the money spent for turbo tax, filing the same way as previous years that they'd be an advocate but apparently they cant do anything to speed up the process.  I'm wondering if I should just be proactive and go to the gov identity website I located.  You want to talk about crazy google searches.  I have searched every which way and back again trying to find out why it's taking 3 months to get my tax refund.  It's now March 6th.  The WMR site only says it's processing.  The status has been the same for 2 months now.  I'm very concerned and very upset.  I need the money.  I have children and obligations just like everybody else.

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

TAX ADVOCATE???? A waste of time Just Like IRS! they all work together. Turbo Tax NEVER AGAIN!

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

After receiving the 4464C letter dated 3/2/18, it said that they were reviewing my return for income, tax withholding amounts and tax credits and it would take up to 60 days and if they needed anything,they would let me know by mail and prior to receiving the letter,  I spoke with an irs agent on the phone and they told me the same thing and it could take up to 45 days but may not take that long and to keep checking the Where's my refund site and that we can blame our president for this with the new tax reform laws and the WMR site kept saying it was being processed and I was surprised when I checked it last Sat., 3/10 that it was approved and my refund will be sent to my bank on Wed, 3/14 so that was a big surprise that I wasn't expecting so soon after receiving that letter! I've never had this problem before either and it was very upsetting!! They're randomly checking returns and especially the ones that were efiled earlier,from what I'm reading online. I also processed my return on Turbo Tax. They don't have any control of what the irs does to your return after it's accepted. So hang in there and keep checking the WMR site.

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

Hi, don’t worry about it I received a 4464 c letter, but you know what I got good news for you. Two weeks after the letter I received my refund. Be patient.

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

Hi and thank you for your reply and the same thing happened to me as I received my refund 2 weeks after I received the letter also. Yay and finally!

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

Everyone is making progress except wittle ole me! Im now 16 business days post 4464c letter.  Will the IRS please update my wmr and give me a stinkin DDD......I'll be your best friend!
skey12345
New Member

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

@mastewart2018 have you heard anything or reach out to TA amen the same waiting game

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

Keep checking the WMR site and it'll surprise you with saying that your refund is approved and when they'll be sending it to your bank. It surprised me and 2 weeks after I received the same letter in the mail. They're doing this to many many people and it's very upsetting I know. So hang in there.
skey12345
New Member

I also got a 4464c letter from the irs my return was a simple one filed single and now their checking me out ive never had a problem before in my life with my taxes why now

@johnandconnie198 thanks I hope that's the case for me am just tired at this point I called IRS twice and tax advocate I am to point I don't even check site no more because when it say still processing I get upset even more
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