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Household income clarification?

I currently live with my parents but they are not claiming me this year and I am doing my own taxes, when it asks for household income for education expenses, is that including my parents?  

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Household income clarification?

When what asks -- are you working on FAFSA?
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Household income clarification?

Turbo tax is asking about it.

Household income clarification?

but where exactly?

Household income clarification?

Where in TT are you being asked that?
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Household income clarification?

When doing deductions for education

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Please be even more specific
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Household income clarification?

Expenses and Scholarships (Form 1098-T) under federal tab and deductions it asks for household income right away.

Household income clarification?

Let's clarify some other things.  How old are you?  Are you a full-time student? If you live at home, why are your parents not claiming you?
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Household income clarification?

I am 20, full time but pay majority of my education, work full time and support myself other than housing.. figured doing my own taxes would benefit myself better.

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@Carl   Want to weigh in here?
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Household income clarification?

You don't get to choose if you can be a dependent or not.

While nobody can be compelled to claim a dependent, a dependent cannot claim them self if they can be claimed by another tax payer - the tax law does not allow that.

That is why there are two questions in the interview - *can* you be claimed as a dependent by another taxpayer, and *were* you (or will you) actually be claimed by that taxpayer?

In both cases the dependent will not get their own $4,050 personal exemption.  If the answer to the second question is "yes" then the taxpayer claiming the  dependent gets it, if the answer is "no" the exemption is lost, but the dependent is then allowed to claim certain educational credits that cannot be claimed by a dependent if they are actually claimed.

See IRS Pub 17 Personal Exemptions - Your Own Exemption
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/ch03.html#en_US_2016_publink1000170848">https://www.irs.gov/pub...>

You can take one exemption for yourself unless you can be claimed as a dependent by another taxpayer. If another taxpayer is entitled to claim you as a dependent, you can’t take an exemption for yourself even if the other taxpayer doesn't actually claim you as a dependent.
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Thanks for that info, but If i support myself doesnt that make me ineligible for my parents to claim me?
Carl
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Household income clarification?

As a full time student under the age of 24 on Dec 31 of the tax year, if you have more than $6,350 of reportable income in 2017 then you have to do a tax return. But for the education stuff I seriously doubt you are the one to claim it. My bet is, your parents' are.
" but pay majority of my education, work full time and support myself other than housing"
Monetary support is not by any means, all that counts here. There are some things that a student needs to understand, and the way the IRS words things in IRS Publication 970 do make it quite clear, but one has to interpret that document "literally" as written. Understand that regardless, it will "always" be better tax-wise for the parents to claim the student, *if* the parents qualify to claim the student. (In situations such as yours, it's rare that the parent would not qualify to claim the student as their dependent.)
For starters, the dependency exemption has to be determined first and foremost, before it can be determined who can claim the education stuff. Basically, it reads as follows in the IRS Pub.
 - If the STUDENT did NOT provide MORE than 50% of THE STUDENT'S own support, then the parents qualify to claim the student as a dependent on the parent's tax return. Scholarships, grants, 1099-Q funds, gifts from Aunt Mary, etc., do not in any way count as the student providing their own support. The student can only provide their own support with money the student has earned in the same tax year the student paid that support.
Support is not just education costs either. It's also food, transportation, housing, clothing, and a few other tidbits.
As it stands, your parents provide you housing. The value of that housing is the fair market rental value of the space in their house that is exlusive to you. Most likely, that's your bedroom and that's it. The FMV of that space is the rent they could receive for it, if they rented it to a non-relative. The "childs rate" doesn't apply here. Its' the FMRV (Fair Market Rental Value). Then add to that your share of the utilities your parent's pay for. (Electric, gas, water, cable, etc.)
How pays for the healthcare coverage you are required to have by law? Your parent's I bet. That's support they provide you.
Enough of the details now, as I could write a multi-volume encyclopedia on this stuff. Check out the stuff in the answer box below. I have to post it in an answer box, because I can't do things with the font in a comment box. *every* *single* *word* *matters*.

Household income clarification?

Thanks for the helpful, detailed response Carl.
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