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What is the IRC 1341 repayment credit in layman's terms?
Dear traceyrhering:
Internal Revenue Code (IRC) Section 1341 repayment credit is one of the two options that a taxpayer has (the other being a tax deduction) when the taxpayer is faced with a situation known as a Claim of Right.
A Claim of Right is, in simple layman's terms, basically the case where a taxpayer reported income as being taxable in one year, but then has to repay it back in a future tax year. An example of this would be where a retired person receives a pension payment during 2009, and then in 2013 receives a letter from the pension administrator informing them that an internal audit of the pension computer system revealed that the administrator made a mistake and overpaid benefits in 2009. As such, they now want the pension recipient to repay (the overpayment) by writing a check back to the pension plan. And as odd as that sounds, a variation of that very same thing happened to my own (retired) mother a few years ago.
But, the interesting tax "quirk" is that since the taxpayer already paid 2009 income taxes on the pension payment (which it turns out they weren't legally entitled to keep, after all), then there has to be a mechanism to make the taxpayer whole. Thus arises the concept of a Claim of Right, where the IRC 1341 is one of the two choices, as I've mentioned above.
Hopefully that helps you to understand the basics.
Now then, a taxpayer can either claim a deduction or a credit for this repayment, and here's how it works mechanically . . .
If you had to repay an amount that you included in your income in an earlier year, you may be able to deduct the amount repaid from your income for the year in which you repaid it. Or, if the amount you repaid is more than $3,000, you may be able to take a credit against your tax for the year in which you repaid it. In most cases, you can claim a deduction or credit only if the repayment qualifies as an expense or loss incurred in your trade or business or in a for-profit transaction.
Repayment over $3,000. If the amount you repaid was more than $3,000, you can deduct the repayment (as explained earlier under Type of deduction ). However, you can choose instead to take a tax credit for the year of repayment if you included the income under a claim of right. This means that at the time you included the income, it appeared that you had an unrestricted right to it. If you qualify for this choice, figure your tax under both methods and compare the results. Use the method (deduction or credit) that results in less tax.
Figure your tax for 2013 without deducting the repaid amount.
Refigure your tax from the earlier year without including in income the amount you repaid in 2013.
Subtract the tax in (2) from the tax shown on your return for the earlier year. This is the credit.
Subtract the answer in (3) from the tax for 2013 figured without the deduction (step 1).
If you choose a deduction, please enter it here:
Federal taxes - Deductions & credits - I'll choose what I work on - Other deductions and credits - Other deductible expense
Please answer YES to "Did you have any other deductions that are not subject to the 2% limitation?"
Please enter the amount you repaid under, "Claim of Right Repayment (Only if over $3,000).
If you choose a credit (This can only be done in the Forms mode of the Desktop version of TurboTax), please enter it here:
FORMS - F1040 - Below line 70 is the Other Payments and Credits Smart worksheet.
Please enter the credit in line D.
This credit should show up on F1040, line 71.
I've included a link to the IRS website for your reference:
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p525/ar02.html#en_US_2013_publink1000229600
Thanks for asking this important question, and good luck to you!
Regards
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What is the IRC 1341 repayment credit in layman's terms?
Dear traceyrhering:
Internal Revenue Code (IRC) Section 1341 repayment credit is one of the two options that a taxpayer has (the other being a tax deduction) when the taxpayer is faced with a situation known as a Claim of Right.
A Claim of Right is, in simple layman's terms, basically the case where a taxpayer reported income as being taxable in one year, but then has to repay it back in a future tax year. An example of this would be where a retired person receives a pension payment during 2009, and then in 2013 receives a letter from the pension administrator informing them that an internal audit of the pension computer system revealed that the administrator made a mistake and overpaid benefits in 2009. As such, they now want the pension recipient to repay (the overpayment) by writing a check back to the pension plan. And as odd as that sounds, a variation of that very same thing happened to my own (retired) mother a few years ago.
But, the interesting tax "quirk" is that since the taxpayer already paid 2009 income taxes on the pension payment (which it turns out they weren't legally entitled to keep, after all), then there has to be a mechanism to make the taxpayer whole. Thus arises the concept of a Claim of Right, where the IRC 1341 is one of the two choices, as I've mentioned above.
Hopefully that helps you to understand the basics.
Now then, a taxpayer can either claim a deduction or a credit for this repayment, and here's how it works mechanically . . .
If you had to repay an amount that you included in your income in an earlier year, you may be able to deduct the amount repaid from your income for the year in which you repaid it. Or, if the amount you repaid is more than $3,000, you may be able to take a credit against your tax for the year in which you repaid it. In most cases, you can claim a deduction or credit only if the repayment qualifies as an expense or loss incurred in your trade or business or in a for-profit transaction.
Repayment over $3,000. If the amount you repaid was more than $3,000, you can deduct the repayment (as explained earlier under Type of deduction ). However, you can choose instead to take a tax credit for the year of repayment if you included the income under a claim of right. This means that at the time you included the income, it appeared that you had an unrestricted right to it. If you qualify for this choice, figure your tax under both methods and compare the results. Use the method (deduction or credit) that results in less tax.
Figure your tax for 2013 without deducting the repaid amount.
Refigure your tax from the earlier year without including in income the amount you repaid in 2013.
Subtract the tax in (2) from the tax shown on your return for the earlier year. This is the credit.
Subtract the answer in (3) from the tax for 2013 figured without the deduction (step 1).
If you choose a deduction, please enter it here:
Federal taxes - Deductions & credits - I'll choose what I work on - Other deductions and credits - Other deductible expense
Please answer YES to "Did you have any other deductions that are not subject to the 2% limitation?"
Please enter the amount you repaid under, "Claim of Right Repayment (Only if over $3,000).
If you choose a credit (This can only be done in the Forms mode of the Desktop version of TurboTax), please enter it here:
FORMS - F1040 - Below line 70 is the Other Payments and Credits Smart worksheet.
Please enter the credit in line D.
This credit should show up on F1040, line 71.
I've included a link to the IRS website for your reference:
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p525/ar02.html#en_US_2013_publink1000229600
Thanks for asking this important question, and good luck to you!
Regards
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How if any does this take new treatment for 2019 for SSA retirement benefits repaid i n 2018 but not posted by SSA until 2019?
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How did that turn out? Did you have issues process the credit at the service center?
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What is the IRC 1341 repayment credit in layman's terms?
@DLMCPA You are actually responding to an older post, that is likely even older than the date stamp on the post. If you have a new question on this subject, you may want to post a new question to get fresh eyes on the subject.
As far as processing the credit is concerned, all of that is ultimately determined by the IRS. They can ask for proof regarding any tax claim, and for this particular subject may be more prone to do so. As with anything tax, accurate records are the key to responding to an IRS questions.
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What is the IRC 1341 repayment credit in layman's terms?
I'd like to take an IRC 1341 deduction on my 2020 Federal Income Taxes for $5,000 of Unemployment Compensation paid and reported in 2019, then repaid in 2020, as a result of losing an appeal with the State of Missouri. Using TurboTax, with the current Federal tax forms, what are the instructions to document this on the tax forms, so I receive the tax credit?
For my Missouri Income Taxes, do I amend my 2019 Missouri Income Taxes or take a deduction similar to an IRC 1341 on my 2020 Missouri Income Taxes? If I take a deduction similar to an IRC 1341 on my 2020 Missouri Income Taxes, again using Turbo Tax, what are the instructions to document this, so I receive the tax credit?
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What is the IRC 1341 repayment credit in layman's terms?
If the amount you repaid was more than $3,000, you can deduct the income you repaid on your 2020 tax return. [It is not a credit.] To do this, please follow these steps:
- Click on Federal Taxes > Deductions & Credits [In TT Self-Employed: Personal > Deductions & Credits > I'll choose what I work on].
- Scroll down to the Other Deductions and Credits and click on the Start/Revisit box next to Other Deductible Expenses.
- On the next screen, Did you have any of these less common expenses, click the No box.
- On the screen, Did you have any of these other expenses click the Yes box. [The list includes Claim of right repayment over $3,000.]
- On the next screen, Tell us about your other expenses
- Enter the amount of the Unemployment Compensation you repaid.
The amount will appear on Schedule A, line 16.
Missouri does not have a claim of right doctrine similar to the Internal Revenue Service. However, claiming the IRC 1341 deduction on your federal return reduces your taxable federal income, which, in turn, reduces your MO taxable income.
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What is the IRC 1341 repayment credit in layman's terms?
is this a refundable credit? thanks
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What is the IRC 1341 repayment credit in layman's terms?
No. The "claim of right repayment" is a deduction from income not a credit.
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What is the IRC 1341 repayment credit in layman's terms?
You are saying that a Claim of Right Repayment (IRC 1341) can be taken exclusively as a miscellaneous income deduction on Schedule A, Line 16, which is entered on Line 33 of the Miscellaneous Itemized Deductions Worksheet. What is the Claim of Right Repayment (IRC 1341) tax credit on Schedule 3, Line 12D, which is entered on Section A, Line 12D of the 1040/1040SR Worksheet? My income repayment was $3,000+.
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