Hello. My dad passed away in March, mom was beneficiary, and we rolled his IRA into hers. TD Amer. did not send us the rmd for this year as requested before the rollover. They are now saying to take the combined RMD (for mom and dad) from her account.
Doesn't the irs want to see the rmd was made from dad's account? Not sure how I will report this. Any help is appreciated.
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The answer depends on how the money was moved to your mother's IRA. If it was done by reportable distribution and rollover (not the preferred method), the money distributed to your mother included your father's 2023 RMD and the rollover of that portion constitutes an excess contribution to your mother's IRA to the extent that it exceeds the amount your mother is eligible to contribute to a traditional IRA for 2023 as a regular contribution. As an excess contribution, the amount would have to be removed from you mother's IRA by a return of contribution.
If instead the money was moved to your mother's IRA by nonreportable trustee-to-trustee transfer (the more proper way to move it), your mother simply needs to take your father's 2023 RMD from her account. In this case, the IRS does not care that the RMD was taken after the transfer and requires no special explanation except in the unlikely event that the IRS questions whether or not your father's 2023 RMD was completed. The 2023 Form 1099-R will show the total of the regular distributions taken from your mother's IRA.
Hi, yes, it was a same-company rollover not a taxable event.
That's helpful. I just need to confirm what his rmd amount was - I can't pull any statements or access his account as they closed it.
Thank you!
Ask the company. They should tell you or tell you his 12/31/22 ending balance.
Be aware that a trustee-to-trustee transfer is neither a distribution nor a rollover, so be careful of your terminology. Just because it was all done at the same custodian does not guarantee that they did a proper trustee-to-trustee transfer. If there was truly a rollover rather than a transfer, that implies that there was distribution that included your father's RMD that was ineligible for rollover. Hopefully TD Ameritrade does better than most banks that all too often inappropriately do a distribution and rollover because the bank reps are poorly trained.
I'll have to call them and asked if they did a transfer or rollover. That's a good point.
And yes I agree the rmd amount would be ineligible, which makes me think TD did a transfer which is not what we requested.
Very helpful. Thank you.
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