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April 20, 2020
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Please help! Accidentally submitted a Non-Filer form

  • April 20, 2020
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I am desperate and have no idea where to turn for help. I accidentally submitted a Non-Filer form and need to delete that form and file my 2019 tax return instead so I can get my refund and stimulous money. I have no idea how to correct my error and appreciate any and all assistance. 

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    fanfare
    Level 15
    April 20, 2020

    if you reported as a non-filer, don't file yet

    wait until July 15.

    there's no point filing now because IRS will not process your paper tax return.

    if no action file a request for extension of time to file.

    wait some more.

    fanfare
    Level 15
    April 20, 2020

    shirley, everything that will be paid this year will go out by July 15th.

    Level 2
    April 20, 2020

    I did the same thing. I’m worried because I already submitted a non filer on accident that I now can’t efile. Should I already start doing a 1040X?

    Level 2
    April 20, 2020

    same!!! help!

    Level 2
    April 20, 2020

    Same here, please help.

     

    I was trying to e-file my 2019 tax form, it turned out that "a tax return with the same Social Security number has already been submitted".

    Level 2
    April 20, 2020

    Same! Did you receive any responses that would be helpful on what to do now? Will we still receive our stimulus check?

    Level 2
    April 20, 2020

    Not yet, couldn't get any info or help from the IRS these days.

    TarheelEd
    Level 4
    May 3, 2020

    For the first TWO WEEKS that the “Check Payment Status” and “Non-Filers” feature was live on the IRS web site, the text suggested that you could use this feature to “check, verify or submit” your current Direct Deposit information. 

    Nothing on the site made a distinction between “non-filer” YET as opposed to “non- filer” EVER.

     

    A VERY important distinction. As a result.... FOR TWO WEEKS...thousands?  millions? of people who HAD filed 2018, but had not YET filed 2019, used this IRS feature believing that the feature was for them. They were “non-filers” YET, and they wanted to make sure the IRS had their DD info so they wouldn’t need to wait extra time for a paper check to be delivered. 

    They did this mistakenly but there was no wording on the site yet to let people know this. It’s an honest and understandable mistake because whoever wrote the language on the site at the IRS did a s**t job explaining it. 

    AND.... Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin publicly promised there would be a feature on the IRS web site for people to check and verify their DD info. This turned out to be BS. One month later it still doesn’t exist. 

    ALSO... Mnuchin said that if you filed a 2018 OR a 2019 return, you would receive your stimulus money via whatever method the IRS had on file for you. This also is total BS. It’s completely untrue. In the real world, (as opposed to the Administrations BS fantasy world) people who filed 2019 returns got their money this way.

     

    At this point.... the ONLY way to provide the IRS with current Direct Deposit information or an updated mailing address, is to file a 2019 return.

     

    It’s not what Treasury promised. It’s not what the Administration told us would be true. But these are the FACTS as known by people who don’t live in a delusional fantasy b** s**t bubble like this Administration does. Not the “alternative B** S**t facts”. The actual FACT facts. 

     

    If you only filed a 2018, but not a 2019 YET, you are getting a paper check in rolling order based upon your Adjusted Gross Income from 2018. The promise that 2018 filers would receive stimulus via their DD on file turned out to be BS. It’s not happening. “2018 filers / 2019 not yet filers”,  will need to wait for paper checks in the mail. See the paper roll out schedule below.

     

    TODAY.... and as of last week... more than TWO WEEKS AFTER, the roll out of this feature on the IRS web site, the IRS added a yellow warning box which FINALLY clarified that this tool should not be used unless you intend to not file a 2019 EVER. (A permanent “non-filer”... and not just a “not filed YET non-filer”.)

     

    It took TWO WEEKS for this warning box and desperately needed clarification to show up on the IRS site. 

    Thousands of people... maybe tens of thousands .. maybe millions of people incorrectly used this IRS tool at no fault of their own. 

    The IRS, the Treasury Department, and Steve Mnuchin specifically, royally screwed up and didn’t provide a clarification for TWO WEEKS. 

    But wait... it’s even worse than that...

     

    They CLEARLY KNOW, at this point that the tool is being misused and used for the wrong purpose. They likely changed the wording and added the yellow warning box  when they noticed a massive surge in non-filer status submissions and realized what was going on. 

    So, even though they now KNOW that massive numbers of people used this feature incorrectly.... and they now KNOW, that they needed to update the language and add the warning box, and did just that.... BUT....

     

    .... they didn’t add ANY information to tell the people who used the tool mistakenly but understandably, how to retract their non-filer status change.... or what they should now do because they have all been locked out of the e-file system.

     

    NOTHING! 

    The Treasury, the IRS, and Mnuchin CAUSED this problem. Then they didn’t correct it for more than TWO WEEKS. Then when they did finally correct it, they are providing no published remedy for what all these people need to to to reverse it or correct it or get their e-file access restored. 

    THIS is why this thread is LOADED with wrong information, stupid information and criticism of ignorant people telling the others, “hey there’s a warning box... it’s your own fault”. No it’s not the users fault. 

    If you filed a 2019 return you should receive your stimulus money via the method provided on your return IF, you filed this 2019 BEFORE the IRS got to your name on their Paper Check list. 

    If you have not filed a 2019 return YET, or not filing one EVER, you are on the list to receive a paper check in the mail. 

    The “2018 filers are fine” promise turned out to be BS. 

     

    IF, you filed a 2018 with one set of dependents or children counted... and those numbers are different in 2019 but you haven’t filed your 2019 YET, I don’t know what will happen to you in terms of the dollar amount you will receive. Presumably you will receive a dollar amount based on your 2018 return. If you have added dependents or children in 2019 over 2018, then you are best served by getting your 2019 filed ASAP or you will be shorted money due to you. 

    Here is the schedule for when you can expect a paper check. 

     

     


    "TODAY.... and as of last week... more than TWO WEEKS AFTER, the roll out of this feature on the IRS web site, the IRS added a yellow warning box which FINALLY clarified that this tool should not be used unless you intend to not file a 2019 EVER. (A permanent “non-filer”... and not just a “not filed YET non-filer”.)

     

    It took TWO WEEKS for this warning box and desperately needed clarification to show up on the IRS site. 

    Thousands of people... maybe tens of thousands .. maybe millions of people incorrectly used this IRS tool at no fault of their own."

     

    Glennboulder for president!!! 

     

    This is exactly why I'm waiting to make any sort of move. I know the very second I drop a paper return in the mail, the gov will announce a perfectly simple workaround for this problem and the floodgates of efile-ville will swing open for us "non filer mistake makers" once again.  But if I mail a return after they address this and give us a solution so we can efile, I will have once again zigged when I should have zagged.

     

    An old old man once gave me the advice of a lifetime, which I refer to in such situations(I should have referred to it before i filled out the dubious non filer):

    "If you dont know what you're doing ....STOP. Stop until you do know what youre doing."

     

    .... it works. So I'm sitting here stopped, waiting for news and I advise others in the same boat to do the same. The moment you drop a paper return into the mailbox, you're doomed to wait probably until the end of the year before you see your refund. 

     

    Just my 2 cents .... but then again my "cents" is what got me here lol

    Level 2
    April 21, 2020

    I am on the same boat, can't file now! What a messsssss

    Level 2
    April 22, 2020

    I made the same mistake and no one could help me, but i figured it out! Go to the non filer application site and press get started, then sign in and then press start over on the top right corner then it will ask you if you are ok with deleting everything and you press yes and then it will show that you never started anything. hope this helps!

    Level 2
    April 22, 2020

    Were you then able to e-file correctly? Or did this just clear that form from irs.gov?

    Level 2
    April 22, 2020

    Same problem here, still can't e-file.

    Level 2
    April 23, 2020

    I did the same thing for the same reasons a few folks mentioned here. I was told by a tax preparer that I now have to mail in a 1040x. It sucks because there’s no way to contact anyone to get this resolved since everyone is working remotely and no one is picking up calls. What I’d like to know is whether sending the 1040x now even makes sense since it might get returned to me if there’s no one there to accept it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    fanfare
    Level 15
    April 23, 2020

     you don't have to file a 1040X.

    Prepare your return as usual on Form 1040.

    You can't e-File, so print it and mail it to the IRS 

    Level 2
    April 23, 2020

    What is the best way to correct?!

     

    i did the same thing!

    fanfare
    Level 15
    April 23, 2020

    @davidsaid  have your read through any of this thread?

    fanfare
    Level 15
    April 23, 2020

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    Level 2
    April 23, 2020

    I did the same thing. I didn't know I could file after I did that.