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Hi...
Your observations of my posts are accurate.
I tend to over explain and a reader of all my posts on this topic will notice not that I “changed” my suggested remedy, so much as I added an additional remedy.
My first remedy was....
- to refute other people’s posts that a 1040X amended form. This was wrong then and still is wrong. A 1040X is not a solution. A 1040X is only to amend financial information.
- then to say that I have found no official remedy instructions from the IRS. This was true then and still is to the best of my knowledge.
- then to say that the only remedy I knew of was to send in a paper 1040 via snail-mail. Add an explanatory cover letter or don’t. Presumably when the IRS receives the paper 1040 they will notice what is clearly obvious... that you aren’t filing twice fraudulently because the first e-file is actually a blank.... and accept the paper 1040.
- and that this remedy sucks because the IRS won’t begin to even process paper returns until at least June 15th, possibly longer, according to the information available from the IRS as of May 3rd, 2020.
- it’s entirely possible that people who made this non-filer status mistake, by submitting a (‘blank’ 1040 via e-file) AND are OWED money by the IRS, may be totally screwed... in terms of getting their return processed until at least June 15th. If you OWE money TO the IRS, just wait until June 15th. Hopefully by then we will have better official guidance.
Later.. in my subsequent posts I added the “delete e-file return and start over” possible option after I learned of it.
You said this theory was “shot down” because the IRS has already officially “accepted” the 1st e- file return, preventing people from e-filing a second time.
It is true (by my own experiment) that you won’t be able to “delete the original e-file” and then e-file again via Turbo Tax. I tried this. Failed. Still rejected for “previous return on file already”.
But... I did read in this forum that there WAS
success if you manually entered the data into the blank 1040 form on the e-file site.
My 1040 is 20 pages long with many Schedules. In my case, I wasn’t going to go this route of manual entry, just yet.
Im waiting 48-70 hours to see if the IRS systems will recognize that I deleted the 1st return and allow me to e-file via TT, once a couple business days have passed and the IRS databases reconcile with the new facts.
Will this work? I honestly don’t know.
I will know on Tuesday or Wednesday this week when I make the next attempt.
I have been very cocky and arrogant in my assertions of this as a “remedy”. I should clarify that it’s only shown to be a partial remedy at this point.
It’s a remedy so far, only for...
- getting the original e-file deleted from the IRS e-file system
- providing an opportunity to “start over” (IRS language) and file a “second attempt” through the e-file site.
Thats all we know so far. It’s not a full remedy at this point because we don’t know several things yet. We don’t know...
- will the IRS database reconcile after 48-72 hours and THEN permit an e-file through TT?
- after deleting the original e-file return, “starting over” and choosing to manually enter your 1040 data line-by-line in e-file, does this second submission become the valid and active replacement 1040 automatically? Or will it still require the IRS to manually reconcile the two submissions... this delaying processing well into June anyways, just the same as a paper return?
These are important questions we need answers to, but we won’t be getting any answers from the IRS.
If my first theory of ‘waiting 48-72 hours’ to see if the IRS computers reconcile and begin to allow a new e-file, does not work.... I will then try to manually enter my long and complicated 1040 into e-file line-by-line, to see if that works.
Fingers crossed.
Ill post here on Wednesday what my personal experimental results turn out to be.