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529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

1099 Q includes 529 withdrawal on 12/28/2023; 1098 - T does not include this amount because check was received by college on 1/3/2024.  How do I handle this on return?

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Hal_Al
Level 15

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

Q.  Let me see if I have this right:  50k qualified expenses, reduced by scholarships and grants of 15k and further reduced by 4k used on parents return for AOC, leaving 31K to use against 1099-Q's.  1099 Q's total 30k, so no 1099-Q income to be included on student's return?

A. Yes.  The 1099-Qs do not need to be entered.

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AmyC
Expert Alumni

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

You may not need to enter the form at all. The 1099-Q was used to pay for expenses within the first 3 months of the next year. IRS Publication 970, Tax Benefits for Education states:

If the entire 1099-Q went to qualified expenses, room and board, tuition, etc then you do not need to enter the form. Tuition paid for the first 3 months of the next year also qualify, see page 12, What Expenses Qualify, and page 52 for qualified distributions.

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529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

Thank you.  I read what the words say but I am still concerned. 

The tax return in question is for my granddaughter who just started college in the fall of 2023.  She is the recipient of the two 1099-Q's.  One of them ties nicely to the 1098 -T furnished to the IRS by the college; the other 1099-Q is not included in the 1098 - t because the check was received by the college in 2024. 

Copies of the 1099 - Q's and the 1098 - T were furnished to the IRS. Those forms are probably automatically matched to the recipient's tax return.  Not finding one of the 1099 - Q's reported on the tax return, wouldn't the IRS send a tax deficiency notice? 

 

 

KrisD15
Expert Alumni

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

You can use the link under box 1 on the 1098-T screen "What if this is not what I paid" and adjust the amount to include what you paid in December but did not post until January. 

BE SURE TO ADJUST DOWN box 1 on the 2024 Tax Year 1098-T to balance. 

 

Arrange for payment transfers directly to the school in the future to eliminate crossing calendar years. 

 

The intent for the tax-free distributions is to be used for education purposes.   

School years and tax years often cross, so an adjustment may be made, however keep student school statements with the tax files and make sure the 2023 adjustment is offset with a 2024 adjustment. 

 

Form 1099-Q and 1098-T are not an easy end-of year match, you need to make allocations outside of the 1040. 

 

 

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Hal_Al
Level 15

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

Q. Copies of the 1099 - Q's and the 1098 - T were furnished to the IRS. Those forms are probably automatically matched to the recipient's tax return.  Not finding one of the 1099 - Q's reported on the tax return, wouldn't the IRS send a tax deficiency notice?

A. No. There is little enforcement in this area, because of wide spread problems like yours. 

The 1098-T (and the 1099-Q) is only an informational document. The numbers on it are not required to be entered onto your tax return. However receipt of a 1098-T frequently means you are either eligible for a tuition credit or possibly your student has taxable scholarship income. 

If you claim the tuition credit, you do need to report that you got one or that you qualify for an exception (the TurboTax interview will handle this)

You claim the tuition credit, or report scholarship income, based on your own financial records, not the 1098-T. In the 1098-T screen, click on the link "What if this is not what I paid the school" underneath box 1. You will then be able to enter the actual amounts paid. You will also reach a screen that allows you to adjust the scholarship amount for "amounts not awarded for 2023 expenses".

Or if you find it easier, just change the numbers in boxes 1& 5 to what your records show. The 1098-T that you enter in TT is not sent to the IRS.

 

You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip! 

References:

  1. On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 
  2. IRS Pub 970 states: “Generally, distributions are tax free if they aren't more than the beneficiary's AQEE for the year. Don't report tax-free distributions (including qualifying rollovers) on your tax return”.
Hal_Al
Level 15

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent, but grandparent is not uncommon), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you (the parent) can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

Thank you.  Yes, it is indeed complicated and I would like to add another complication for you to consider.

Total qualified expenses (all rounded) are     $50,000

Paid from Grandfather's 529                                20,000

Paid by uncle                                                            5,000

Paid from grants and scholarships                      15,000

Paid by parents from 529 - Used for AOC         10,000

Qualified expenses to be used against 1099-Q  Zero

Since the parents took the $10,000 they paid for the American Opportunity Credit and all other expenses were paid by others, the student has no remaining qualified expenses.  There are 2 1099-Q's, one from the grandfather's 529 and one from the parent's 529.  Since the parents used the $10,000 for the AOC, is it only the parent's 1099 - Q that the student needs to pay tax on the 529 earnings?

AmyC
Expert Alumni

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

 The parents used their $10,000 for room and board, so they could claim the AOTC. Room and board is not a qualified expense for AOTC, but it is a qualified expense for the 529. For full details, see 529 for Room and Board

 

All $50,000 of the Q money was used on qualified expenses so there isn't anything left to claim as income. Nothing goes on her return. The 529 is for all qualified expenses 

 

Reference: About Publication 970, Tax Benefits for Education

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Hal_Al
Level 15

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

It only takes $4000 of qualified expenses to claim the AOC.  The $5000 paid by the uncle is ignored.

 

50K -15K - 4K  = 31K can be used against the two 1099-Qs (grandfather & parent's 529).

 

It's not clear what "Paid by parents from 529 - Used for AOC  10,000" means. Is box 1 of the 1099-Q  $20K or $10K or $14K or something else?

 

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

Again, thank you.  I really appreciate all the help on this.  Let me see if I have this right:  50k qualified expenses, reduced by scholarships and grants of 15k and further reduced by 4k used on parents return for AOC, leaving 31K to use against 1099-Q's.  1099 Q's total 30k, so no 1099-Q income to be included on student's return. 

Hal_Al
Level 15

529 withdrawal on December 28, 2023; received by college on 1/3/ 2024

Q.  Let me see if I have this right:  50k qualified expenses, reduced by scholarships and grants of 15k and further reduced by 4k used on parents return for AOC, leaving 31K to use against 1099-Q's.  1099 Q's total 30k, so no 1099-Q income to be included on student's return?

A. Yes.  The 1099-Qs do not need to be entered.

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