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I posted a similar thread and am extremely frusterated with TT. Not only does the IRS have this form so does H&R tax software. Come TT get on it. Looks like I am not the only one waiting on just this form to file and the only holdup is TT. Looking to use H&R next at this point.
It should be painfully clear to all of us that the folks at Intuit simply do not care about us, apparently they feel that foreign tax payers are too small a group of people to matter...
What would be good
-They don’t slip the date again
-They release prior to 3/3/2022
-Someone from Intuit comments with a real status
ALL OF THE ABOVE
At this point I am just going to claim it as a deduction so I can at least get my taxes filed. I lose the credit since I don't itemize but at least I can get my taxes filed. Thankfully the credit is not huge but given the issue going on with tax filing and possible delays I need to get mine filed. I typically have no refund but this year I do and I would prefer the Gov't does not hang onto it any longer than necessary just because TT can not get thier act together.
Hey anyone at TT. I know you are super busy but forms into the system should be your top priority. Seems like you are more focused on givng me posting badges. You are really good at that. 🙂
You may want to consider filing an amended return later to get your tax credit. I assume this would work, but not sure.
@LGJLFTAX - If your return is not to complicated, you can enter 1116 by hand.
Good luck understanding the instructions if you complete form 1116 by hand. Isn't that one of the reasons why we use Turbos tax, so we don't have to figure out where to put everything? Furthermore, that would mean you couldn't file electronically. As far as filing an amended return later, I wouldn't trust that. I tried to amend last year's return but gave up because Turbo Tax 2020 kept crashing. If I could have amended it, I might have gotten a few extra dollars back from 2020, but it's not worth the aggravation to keep trying. I may end up just going with the deduction if they keep delaying this form. The availability date keeps getting pushed out. This along with other issues this year have left me very disappointed with Turbo Tax right now.
@JES33 - The instructions are not that bad. I actually manually prepared my 1116 just to see what it would be. I think you can manually fill in the form in TurboTax and then efile. Also, if the amount of foreign tax is under $300 ($600 MFJ), and from 1099-DIVs and/or K-1s, then you don't even need 1116. A couple of weeks ago, when I prepared my daughter's tax return using, TurboTax, it handled that case fine.
I do agree with you that we buy TurboTax to handle complications such as 1116. I have said as much in an earlier comment on this thread. Personally, I can wait until TT has the form ready. I hate to give away money by not claiming my credit and I'd prefer not to have to amend my return later.
Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do.
Today is 2/23/2022. Turbotax still does not have the Form 1116 ready! Could someone from the software company give an explanation and a date?
@LongTimeUser3 wrote:
Today is 2/23/2022. Turbotax still does not have the Form 1116 ready! Could someone from the software company give an explanation and a date?
As has been posted multiple times on this thread -
Form 1116, Foreign Tax Credit for tax year 2021 is estimated to be available in TurboTax on 03/03/2022
Go to this TurboTax website for IRS forms availability - https://care-cdn.prodsupportsite.a.intuit.com/forms-availability/turbotax_fed_online_individual.html
The forms availability list strikes me as quite a number of forms not available until March, and not that much earlier than April 15th due date. My conclusion here is that for moderately complex tax returns (more than turbotax basic), turbotax isnt the way to go anymore. Its time to look at H&R block or a CPA. Too bad. Have been using turbotax for 20 years and have been dissappointed last year and this year. (Its a pain to change programs because of all the buried information that is carried from year to year. (carryovers).
@bobp55 -thanks for the information. My foreign tax paid is over $300 so I will need to complete the form. I just took a look at it and may try entering it manually to see what happens. Of course I will use a duplicate copy of my return since I don't trust that I will be able to revert back. I've had several issues reverting back, so now when I make any changes I experiment on a copy. I have couple of questions that perhaps you know the answer to. First, the form in Turbo Tax says: "Do Not File." Is that because the numbers will get carried over to some other place or because Turbo Tax claims it is waiting for an update? Second, the form only has room for three countries. Can I combine multiple countries or do I need to use multiple forms? Thanks.
03/03/22 - jeez HR have this updated a couple weeks ago at the very least. I have everything ready in HR but use TT normally and compare with HR to make sure it all lines up…
Just spoke to TurboTax by phone and was informed that the update has been delayed from February 17 to March 3! Really? FYI, the IRS issued the form 1116 (2021) on December 14, 2021. So the message you get from TurboTax blaming the IRS appears to be untrue. This delay is costing me dearly - it is the only thing preventing me filing my 2021 taxes and I under a tight internal deadline. What the heck is TurboTax doing?!!!
@JES33 - I can try to answer some of your questions. But first, what I did was look at the 1116 I got from TurboTax for my 2020 tax return.
In my case, all of the foreign tax was on a 1099-DIV I got from a mutual fund company. If you look at the first page of 1116, you will see in Part 1, there are columns A, B, C. So you can handle 3 different countries on the same form. In my case, since it all came on 1099-DIV from a mutual fund company, I didn't need to specify countries. On line 1 in column A, I specified RIC (Regulated Investment Company). On line 1a, in the dotted line, I wrote "From 1099s", then under the A column, I entered the amount of foreign income, which I calculated from info that my mutual fund company supplied (in 2000, my 1099 actually specified that amount of foreign income).
On line 2, 2e (gross income from all sources) was the only tricky one for me. It can be more than our federal AGI (line 11 of AGI). I had to add back all the individual losses I had from my 1099-B. Here's a rough example.
AGI (line 11 of form 1040) 50,000
Four stock trades reported on 1099-B : Two were gains : 1000, 2000. Two were losses : (1250), (500)
To get line 2e, You add 50000 + 1250 +500 = 51750
For me, the rest of the form was pretty straightforward. I had no mortgage interest, but I would think the worksheet wouldn't be hard. Part 2 only had the "paid" box checked, used 12/31 as the paid date on line A, and only an entry in the "dividends" column in the US dollars section (column q) and on the far right (column u).
That's about all I have. As far as why 1116 says "do not file", it's because it has not yet been completed because TT hasn't updated the software yet.
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