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Married filing jointly vs. married filing separately with student loans

My husband and I just got married and we’re contemplating on which status to file for our taxes. Our biggest worry is student loans. I am currently under an income based driven plan. I make $115,000 a year and he makes $120,000. We both have student loans. I am not in default and I am in forbearance until October 2023. According to the Student Aid estimated monthly payment calculator, I’ll have to pay $1,246 per month if we file jointly. If we file separately, the calculator says $562 per month. Currently, my payment plan is $173 per month. 

 

Since the monthly payment appears to be very high, we are considering filing separately. However, I’m sure there are other considerations for filing separately, such as the interest deduction (I haven’t made any payments or interest payment since 2020). I’ve done some preliminary research and heard that filing separately is essentially filing as a single person. Is this true? Is there an online tool to calculate both scenarios of filing jointly/separately to take into account all tax liabilities?

 

Thanks in advance!

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Married filing jointly vs. married filing separately with student loans

@pynkrosegrl - 

The laws motivate married couples to file joint as Congress protects the sactimony of marriage. 

 

96% of married couples file joint.  It is quite unusual to be able to find a situation where filing Separate makes financial sense.  but the income repayment plans for student loans may be the one area where it MIGHT work.  and since your incomes are so similiar, it does tilt the scale towards 'this could work'!

 

adding @Opus 17 as he has had some good commentary on this subject in the past. 

 

suggest laying out all three tax returns (each separate and then Joint) at this website and then determining the implications of the educational repayment plans 

 

https://www.dinkytown.net/java/1040-tax-calculator.html

 

The student loan interest is not going to be deductible, even if you file "joint'- your incomes are too high so you are not eligible.  Same would go for filing Separate (it is not deductible filing separate, regardless of your income)

 

do you have children?  are you itemizing your deduction?  answers to those quesions have ramifications if filing separate. 

Married filing jointly vs. married filing separately with student loans

Thank you for your response. We will probably go through each scenario and decide the best route. To answer your questions, we have no children and dependents. We’re not itemizing deductions either - we usually take the standard deductions. 

Married filing jointly vs. married filing separately with student loans

@pynkrosegrl 

no children and taking the standard deduction makes the analysis much simpler as a number of 'mind fields' are avoided, 

Married filing jointly vs. married filing separately with student loans

Make sure you buy/download/install the desktop version of the software to be used on a full MAC or Windows computer.

 

That way you can prepare three entirely separate tax files for your comparison purposes, and have full access to all the forms to look at individually.   1xMFS and 2xMFS.

 

To do so using the "Online" software would be somewhat possible, but would require three entirely different Online accounts......and, you wouldn't be able to see the details on the forms in each of the files without paying for each account separately.

____________*Answers are correct to the best of my knowledge when posted, but should not be considered to be legal or official tax advice.*

Married filing jointly vs. married filing separately with student loans

I don’t know of a good online tool to compare. If you buy TurboTax to install on your own computer, you can prepare multiple returns because each is a separate file, like a separate word processing document.  If you used TurboTax online, you would need three separate accounts with different usernames and passwords, to prepare a joint and two separate returns.

 

@xmasbaby0 might have a more comprehensive list of the items that are not allowed when you file jointly.  Off the top of my head, you can’t claim the dependent care credit for putting a child in daycare, and if you want to use an FSA from your workplace to pay for child care, the limit is $2500 instead of $5000, and only one parent can claim the child as a dependent. Your ability to contribute to an IRA is also limited when you file separately.  

The problem with focusing your thinking on IBR only is that you are guaranteed to pay higher taxes for as long as you file separately.  Whether you save more in interest payments over the long run depends on interest rates, possible loan forgiveness, and whether a forgiven loan is taxable.  If you plan to qualify for PSLF, you may have to file separately for 10 years to benefit. If you want ordinary loan forgiveness, you may have to file separately for 15 or 20 or 25 years — the laws keep changing and I haven’t kept up with the changes.  Whether IBR really saves you more money in the long run will depend not only on the tax benefits that you lose but also on future changes to tax law and student loan law, which is pretty unpredictable at this point.

 

I can tell you that I was on a 27 year repayment plan, which I finally managed to pay off 4 years early, but it was a real drag to be paying my student loans after my daughter graduated from college.  Of course, I was not eligible for any loan forgiveness programs back then, whether created by Congress or waived up by the president‘s magic wand (which may or may not survive court challenges).  

 

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