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Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

My husband's gross taxable income is $340,000

Last year I stopped working and went back to school, so mine is only $1,200

 

Would filing separately help us?

We itemize deductions already - but the charitable fund we use is in both our names so I'm not sure how that would work. 

 

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Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

In almost all cases when you are married, filing as Married Filing Jointly is the best way to file, even if one spouse has little or no income.

Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

RIght, but when I tried to switch it up in turbo tax it seemed to be very different, What are the cases where it would make sense to file individually?

 

Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

Joint is usually better.  MFS is the worst way to file.  

Here's some things to consider about filing separately……

 

In the first place you each have to file a separate return, so that's two returns.  And if you are using the Online version that means using 2 accounts and paying the fees twice.  The Desktop CD/Download program would be better to use.

 

Many people think they come out better when filing Married Filing Separate but they are probably doing it wrong.  If one person itemizes deductions on Schedule A then the other one must itemize too, even if it's less than the standard deduction, even if it is ZERO!  And if you are in a Community Property state it can be complicated to figure out.

Hal_Al
Level 15

Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

Q.  Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

A. Jointly. Nothing you described favors filing separately. 

 

That said, the only way to be sure is prepare returns both ways and compare the results.

 

If you choose married filing separately as your filing status, the following special rules apply. Because of these special rules, you will usually pay more tax on a separate return than if you used another filing status that you qualify for.

1. Your tax rate generally will be higher than it would be on a joint return.
2. Your exemption amount for figuring the alternative minimum tax will be half that allowed to a joint return filer.
3. You cannot take the credit for child and dependent care expenses in most cases, and the amount that you can exclude from income under an employer's dependent care assistance program is limited to $2,500 (instead of $5,000 if you filed a joint return). For more information about these expenses, the credit, and the exclusion see Pub 17, Chapter 32.
4. You cannot take the earned income credit.
5. You cannot take the exclusion or credit for adoption expenses in most cases.
6. You cannot take the education credits (the American Opportunity credit and the lifetime learning credit), the deduction for student loan interest, or the tuition and fees deduction.
7. You cannot exclude any interest income from qualified U.S. savings bonds that you used for higher education expenses.
8. If you lived with your spouse at any time during the tax year:
a. You cannot claim the credit for the elderly or the disabled,
b. You will have to include in income more (up to 85%) of any social security or equivalent railroad retirement benefits you received, and
c. You cannot convert amounts from a traditional IRA into a Roth IRA.
9. The following deductions and credits are reduced at income levels that are half those for a joint return:
a. The child tax credit,
b. The retirement savings contributions credit,
c. Itemized deductions, and
d. The deduction for personal exemptions.
10. Your capital loss deduction limit is $1,500 (instead of $3,000 if you filed a joint return).
11. If your spouse itemizes deductions, you cannot claim the standard deduction. If you can claim the standard deduction, your basic standard deduction is half the amount allowed on a joint return.

You may not be able to deduct all or part of your contributions to a traditional IRA if you or your spouse were covered by an employee retirement plan at work during the year. Your deduction is reduced or eliminated if your income is more than a certain amount. This amount is much lower for married individuals who file separately and lived together at any time during the year.

If you actively participated in a passive rental real estate activity that produced a loss, you generally can deduct the loss from your non-passive income, up to $25,000. This is called a special allowance. However, married persons filing separate returns who lived together at any time during the year cannot claim this special allowance. Married persons filing separate returns who lived apart at all times during the year are each allowed a $12,500 maximum special allowance for losses from passive real estate activities.

If you live in Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington or Wisconsin and file separately, your income may be considered separate income or community income for income tax purposes. See Pub 555 Community Property - http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p555.pdf The states of Tennessee and South Dakota have passed elective Community

Property Laws.

 

 

Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

You can't just change a joint return to MFS.  You would both need to set up separate new accounts and not transfer from 2022.  You each need separate accounts and returns.  

AmyC
Expert Alumni

Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

Here is a great article by Turbo Tax on MFJ vs MFS. Depending on the state, you may want to file MFS, if allowed. 

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Hal_Al
Level 15

Is it better for my husband and I to file jointly or separately?

Q. What are the cases where it would make sense to file individually?

A. The reasons for filing separately as usually personal, not tax related. The number one reason, we see in this forum, is when a loan company makes them file separately to qualify for a reduced student loan payment schedule. The #2 reason, is in Ohio, where the state makes you file federal separately to qualify to file state separately, to get around Ohio's marriage penalties.  

 

To do a comparison, it is better if you use the TurboTax download/CD software rather than the online program. 

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