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How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

I switched from TaxAct to TurboTax for my 2021 tax filing. I'm using the Premier desktop application on Windows.

 

When I started a new return, I transferred in my tax PDF from last year. It worked partially. It loaded only basic information like names, dependents, and AGI. But what I really need is for it to load Schedule E which contains information on rental property income. It didn't seem to import anything in any of the Schedules - just the main form / first page. I've also tried importing the PDF into the online version as a test and it didn't seem to do any better.

 

I'm trying to avoid excessive typing and TurboTax should be able to import from last year's return. I was thinking if I could somehow convert the TaxAct PDF into something more amenable to TurboTax, like a TXF format, that might help? Or modify it in some way?

I've also tried calling support. Went over the problem for a few hours without any luck.

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MichelleLO
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How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

Please see the below TurboTax help article for information on what can be transferred into TurboTax from last year's return. 

Transfer last year's return to 2021 TurboTax for Windows

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How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

I read it. This is incorrect information. It did not transfer this for example.

 

  • Tax schedule information

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

Sorry the pdf only transfers very basic  personal info like your name, ssn and AGI.   That list of items is only for the tax files.   That link says it will transfer from TaxAct.  Do you have a Tax Act file on your computer?  Not the pdf.  Start a new return and try to transfer from the actual TaxAct file.    See the first link in that help article.  

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

And See this Help Article on Tax files vs PDF files. It says PDF has Limited Transfer Ability
https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-data-file/help/what-s-the-difference-between-the-tax-data-file...

 

I looked up TaxAct.  Their files should end in .ta1  for 2021.  

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

Hi @VolvoGirl,

 

I really appreciate the help and insight you provided.  I did follow those leads but it looks like it's not going to work. I downloaded the TaxAct Desktop Return file with extention .ta0 (for 2020). The TurboTax import software claims it does not support the format. I even tried changing the extension to .tax2020 and it processed the file but the results were blank or incorrect, which makes since if the formats are different. (I also tried various extensions .ta, .ta1, etc.) 

If there were only a way to convert a .ta0 format to a .tax format (TaxAct to TurboTax).

 

@Carl I noticed you answered a lot of Real Estate questions. Perhaps you know of a way to import Schedule E info from a non-Turbo Tax return?

Carl
Level 15

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

Perhaps you know of a way to import Schedule E info from a non-Turbo Tax return?

One keystroke at a time. 🙂

For rental property, you'll need the following documents from the 2020 return (if they were produced by whatever program was used for the 2020 return)

- Form 4562 titled "Depreciation and Amortization Report" that prints in landscape format for that specific property.

- Form 4562 titled "Alternative Minimum Tax Depreciation Report" that also prints in landscape format for that specific property.

- IRS Form 8582-Passive Activity Loss Limitations.

Note that if you don't have the 8582 in the 2020 return, then most likely it's because you have no passive loss carry overs. That would not be common, yet it's not impossible either.

 

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

@Carl Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.  I do have all those forms available. Guess I'll have to bite the bullet.

Carl
Level 15

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

I know it's time consuming. But only in the first year of using the TTX program really. Besides, there's certain rules on importing to TTX from a PDF. First, it won't just import from any PDF. It will only import from those PDFs created by the TTX program, and a few other select programs. Second, you can only import the personal information which appears under the Personal Info tab in the TTX program. Overall, that's not really much help if you ask me. But it is, what it is.

Also, if the rental depreciation for 2021 is significantly more than taken in 2020, and assuming you rented the entire year for both 2020 and 20201, then I can probably tell you why and what you need to do to fix it. But I won't get into those details unless necessary.

 

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

I entirely agree that it's not much help to only transfer the personal info.

 

Regarding the statement below, I'm not sure I follow. The majority of the rental depreciation is usually about the same from year to year based on the MACRS percentage, so a big rise wouldn't be the case for me. Places were mostly rented through the year during both years. But if it were greater why would that need fixing?

 

Although I did have a lot of work done on one place between Nov 2021 and Feb 2022. So my depreciation may go up a bit. The thing that will get tricky this year is delineating between what is a repair (deductable) and what adds value to the property for the work done in 2021.

 

Also, if the rental depreciation for 2021 is significantly more than taken in 2020, and assuming you rented the entire year for both 2020 and 20201, then I can probably tell you why and what you need to do to fix it. But I won't get into those details unless necessary.

Carl
Level 15

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

But if it were greater why would that need fixing?

Some people don't realize that you have to add together the amounts in the "prior years depr" column and the "current year depr" column on the previous year's 4562 to get the correct amount of depreciation to claim on the current tax year's tax return. It results in double-dipping thus making the depreciation being about double what it should be for the current year.

The thing that will get tricky this year is delineating between what is a repair (deductable) and what adds value to the property for the work done in 2021.

Maybe I can make that easier/simpler for you? Here are clear cut definitions of how to define the different costs and expenses. At least, they're as "clear cut" as I can make them. The below was produced with the help of a few others who are regulars in these forums.

RENTAL PROPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that Improve, restore, or otherwise “better” the property. Basically, they retain or add value to the property.

Betterments:
Expenses that may result in a betterment to your property include expenses for fixing a pre-existing defect or condition, enlarging or expanding your property, or increasing the capacity, strength, or quality of your property. An example of a pre-existing condition or defect in this context would be something such as foundation repair (slab jacking) or some other, hidden and costly, anomaly.
Restoration:
Expenses that may be for restoration include expenses for replacing a substantial structural part of your property, repairing damage to your property after you properly adjusted the basis of your property as a result of a casualty loss, or rebuilding your property to a like-new condition.
Adaptation:
Expenses that may be for adaptation include expenses for altering your property to a use that isn’t consistent with the intended ordinary use of your property when you began renting the property. Adding a wheelchair ramp would be an example.

 

Expenses for these types of costs are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria need to be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must retain or add "real" value to the property. In other words, when the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

There are rules that allow you to just flat-out expense and deduct some property improvements instead of capitalizing and depreciating them, if the total cost of the improvement was less than $2,500. It’s referred to as “safe harbor di-minimis” But depending on the specific situation, this may or may not be beneficial. Just be aware that not every property improvement that cost less than $2,500 qualifies for this. If this interest you, the rules can get complex. So a good place to start reading is on the IRS website at https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations. The stuff on di-minimis starts about one page down.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and its assets in the usable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent for the very first time are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or its assets to the same usable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent for the very first time are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a 2-bedroom house into a 3-bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.

How to Transfer 2020 TaxAct PDF File?

Regarding depreciation, that's good to be aware of since it's my first time doing this manually.

 

Thanks so much for all this valuable information! I'll be referring to it quite a bit.

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