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rodncharlabarber
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Error in K1P Addl Info 1 form

Outside Expense: Interest Paid, Line 2
- This amount is *incorrectly* added to the partnership total income in Schedule E, P2, Line 28, column k.

- This amount is applied correctly to Schedule E, P2 creating a new line item in Line 28, column i

- The result is that this negates the deduction this amount should provide.

 

For instance, say my income from my K-1 is $20,000, reported in Schedule E, P2, Line 28, column k.

- When I enter the $2,000 interest paid into K1P Addl Info 1 form, Outside Expense: Interest Paid, Line 2, the "Income K-1" in Schedule E, P2, Line 28, column k then incorrectly increases to $22,000 from $20,000.

- The additional line item is added and the  "Loss K-1" correctly shows $2,000, as expected.

- The Totals in Schedule E, P2, Line 29 should contain $18,000, but it incorrectly contains $20,000 - which was the original amount of income without adjusting for the loss.

- The effect of this error is that I lose a $440 tax refund for the $2,000 loss.

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Error in K1P Addl Info 1 form

How did you enter this figure?

 

I entered the figures from your hypothetical in Forms Mode and the following is what I got.

 

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rodncharlabarber
Returning Member

Error in K1P Addl Info 1 form

To start, I selected Partnerships/ LLCs (Form 1065), I entered my K-1s, including the one that provides this error, in step-by-step mode. At this point the "Income K-1" in Schedule E, P2, Line 28, column k shows $20,000.

 

I came back later to enter the interest expense in forms mode, under the K-1 Partner form's K1P Addl Info 1. I enter the $2,000 interest paid into K1P Addl Info 1, Outside Expense: Interest Paid, Line 2. After entering that amount, the "Income K-1" in Schedule E, P2, Line 28, column k then incorrectly increases to $22,000. Instead of giving me the calculation of $20,000 - $2,000 = $18,000, this incorrectly calculates as $22,000 - $2,000 = $20,000 - the original amount before the interest expense.

 

The additional line item is added and the "Loss K-1" shows $2,000, as expected. It is the increase in the column k income K-1 that causes this issue.

 

I am not sure how to post screenshots here but I can provide them if possible.

Error in K1P Addl Info 1 form

I ma not certain what is happening on your end, but I have been unable to reproduce the error.

 

When I enter $2,000 in Forms Mode (on the K1P), I get the result shown in my previous post on Schedule E.

 

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rodncharlabarber
Returning Member

Error in K1P Addl Info 1 form

I created a test copy of my tax return, kept my original K-1 but stripped it down to income and interest expense. I added a new K-1 that contains the same amounts. The new K-1 correctly leaves the income at 20,000, but the old K-1 still incorrectly increases income to 22,000. First I list below what I included on the forms, then I list the results. I remain baffled as to why the income in the original form still increases to 22,000. I have played with some other numbers, such as removing the SSTB designation and removing QBI from the original K-1 and adding those values to the new K-1, but that did not correct or reproduce the issue.

 

In my original Form 1065 (K-1 Partner)
- All investment is at risk
- I first left line 1 as 15,000 business income and line 4b as 5,000 Guaranteed payments for capital.
- To try something new I consolidated line 1 into 20,000 by making line 1 as 15,000 business income and line 4b as 5,000 Guaranteed payments for capital.
- I removed all other amounts except for that 20,000 from Ordinary business income (loss) and checked materially participated
- On the K-1 Partner Additional Info form, I included the 2,000 in Outside Expenses, Interest Paid (line 2)

 

In my new Form 1065 (K-1 Partner)
- All investment is at risk
- I left line 1 15,000 business income and line 4b 5,000 Guaranteed payments for capital, since that is the original situation.
- I checked materially participated
- On the K-1 Partner Additional Info form, I included the 2,000 in Outside Expenses, Interest Paid (line 2)

 

Here are the results:

 

Form 1065 (K-1 Partner):
My original form
- Both sections A & B *do not* include the -2,000 amount on line 1f (interest expense), column c (Net Income (Loss) Allowed).
- Both sections A & B include the -2,000 amount on line 1a (interest expense), column a (Gain (Loss) Limited by Form 6198 if Applicable)
- Section C incorrectly includes an additional 2,000 on line 1j to make the income 22,000

 

My new form -
- Both sections A & B include the -2,000 amount on line 1f (interest expense), column c (Net Income (Loss) Allowed).
- Both sections A & B include the -2,000 amount on line 1a (interest expense), column a (Gain (Loss) Limited by Form 6198 if Applicable)
- Section C does not include the additional 2,000 and correctly has 20,000

 

Schedule E, p2, lines 28 and 29
The amount from my original form incorrectly lists 22,000 on line 1, column k (Income K-1), and on line 2 lists the 2,000 interest expense in column i (Loss K-1)
The amount from my new form correctly lists 20,000 on line 3, column k (Income K-1), and on line 4 lists the 2,000 interest expense in column i (Loss K-1)

Error in K1P Addl Info 1 form

@rodncharlabarber 

 

You might want to contact Support at this point.

 

See How do I contact TurboTax? (intuit.com)

 

I have tried both of your input examples and cannot reproduce the results you are seeing in the program. 

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