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mrich6092
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Romance scam

In 2017, I fell victim to Romance scam I was 54 and divorced and took money out of my 401K  in which i gave to this woman, In 2019 I received a bill from the IRS for 84K is there a way that i can take any of the money as theft (loss), I cant afford that. I reported It to the federal Trade commission, Need Help what can i do?

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Romance scam

You can no longer claim theft losses on a tax return unless the loss is attributable to a federally declared disaster. This deduction has been suspended until at least 2026 under the new Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) that went into effect under President Trump's administration on January 1, 2018.

Romance scam

You can no longer deduct such a loss.  The deduction for personal casualty or theft losses has been suspended (eliminated) through tax year 2025, unless the loss occurred in a federally-declared disaster area and was directly caused by the disaster.

Please see the TurboTax Help article "What if I have property that was lost or damaged (a casualty loss)?" for more information.  (Although stolen items aren't mentioned in the title, they are in the text.)

Romance scam

I do not feel qualified to give a reply to this issue---but I do have a question-----in what year did the actual theft occur?  Was it in 2017 or later--in 2018?   The tax laws for theft losses changed for tax years 2018 and beyond.

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**
mrich6092
Returning Member

Romance scam

It happen in 2017.

Romance scam

Then I suggest seeing a very qualified local tax preparer to help with this.   For tax year 2017 you could still enter theft losses on a federal return.   It would have been an itemized deduction  ---so it *might*   increase your 2017   tax refund.      Not a chance you can recover your enormous loss from a tax return.  But amending a 2017 return to include the theft might make a small dent.    And of course you should be pursuing legal action to recover this from the scammer.

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

Romance scam

Because the loss occurred in 2017, you can deduct it on a 2017 amended tax return.

 

You did not specify the other half of your problem. It sounds like you received a 1099 – R for the 401(k) withdrawal in 2017 but did not report the income on your tax return. The IRS eventually caught up to you and sent you a tax assessment for income tax plus the early withdrawal penalty on the money.

 

Since the theft occurred in 2017, what you should have done was to report the 1099R as taxable income and then take a tax deduction for the theft loss. You would still have owed some tax on the withdrawal, depending on your other tax situations, but it probably would not have been as much tax as the IRS assessed in 2019.  Hopefully you have since paid the assessment, otherwise it is racking up big interest and penalties. However, that makes correcting the situation a little more difficult.

 

I suggest that you see a CPA or enrolled agent, to assist with this tax situation, not just a storefront or seasonal tax preparer. You must file the amended 2017 return no later than April 15, 2021, or no later than two years after the date you actually filed the 2017 return if you filed it after the 4/15/18 deadline.  You must report the 1099R as income and you can claim the theft loss as a deduction. That will result in your what your correct tax bill should have been for 2018.  The difference between that tax bill and your assessment is the amount you have overpaid and should now be due as a refund. However, I don’t know how to specifically claim this amount as a refund in this particular situation, which is why I think you will benefit from the assistance of a CPA or enrolled agent.

Romance scam

yes----i came back to add also----it sounds like you took a lot of money from a retirement account and would have had a 10% early withdrawal penalty and a lot of extra tax.   The IRS is after you for that if you did not enter the 1099R on a tax return.   A really good tax preparer or CPA  may be able to negotiate with the IRS for the amount they say you owe.

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

Romance scam

what the tax experts point out only applies to the years 2018-2025 not to 2017.  in 2017 did you file a police report?  that's important because if you amend 2017 the IRS may require proof including asking if you filed a police report. it is also possible that the IRS will challenge the deduction claiming you made gifts and therefore do not have a theft loss.  I would strongly advise you to consult a tax pro on how to proceed. 

 

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