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xiaochi
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I qualify for the foreign earned income exclusion on the full $30k I earned in 2022, but when I enter it in Turbotzax, it still lowers my refund amount. Why?

I worked first part of year in USA, and SEP-DEC in Japan, but continuous presence in Japan from 6/20/22--6/20/23.
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I qualify for the foreign earned income exclusion on the full $30k I earned in 2022, but when I enter it in Turbotzax, it still lowers my refund amount. Why?

Ok ... review the return before and after you make that election ... pay careful attention to the credits section.  The 1040 is a long math problem and it is worked from line 1 step by step and line by line  to the very end ... if you change something on line 1  this has a "ripple effect" thru the rest of the return

xiaochi
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I qualify for the foreign earned income exclusion on the full $30k I earned in 2022, but when I enter it in Turbotzax, it still lowers my refund amount. Why?

I have spent last hour on phone w/ TT help. Adjusted gross income remains same whether foreign income is entererd or not, and worksheet shows full deduction for foreign income, but somehow tax rate increases with it added in.

rjs
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Level 15

I qualify for the foreign earned income exclusion on the full $30k I earned in 2022, but when I enter it in Turbotzax, it still lowers my refund amount. Why?

When you take the foreign earned income exclusion, your tax is not just calculated on the income amount on Form 1040. The amount of excluded foreign income affects the tax because your other income, that is not excluded, is taxed at the same rates that would have applied to that income if you did not get the exclusion. The non-excluded income is "stacked" on top of the excluded income for the purpose of calculating the tax. Therefore, when the amount of excluded foreign income increases, some of the other income gets pushed into a higher tax bracket, and is taxed at a higher percentage. That's why your tax increases even though the taxable income is the same.


To perform this stacking of income the tax calculation has to be done on the Foreign Earned Income Tax Worksheet. In TurboTax Online the only way to see the worksheet is to print your entire tax return with the government and TurboTax worksheets included.


Basically the calculation is three steps.

  1. Calculate what the tax would be if you did not have the exclusion. That is, add the excluded amount to your taxable income and calculate the tax on the total.
  2. Calculate what the tax would be on the excluded amount only, if that were your only income.
  3. Subtract the result of step 2 from the result of step 1.

 

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