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Level 2
June 6, 2019
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Qualified business income deduction - are the QBI worksheets functional that support ln 9 of 2018 1040? TT did not link SE income to QBI ded summary and qbi worksheet

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But cannot enter anything other than activity and net income unless override to qbi ded summary.

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Level 2
June 6, 2019
As of April 2, my QBI deduction calculation IS working! BTW, I had a partnership K-1 with qualified income. I didn't have to do anything. It flowed through from the K-1 to the qualified income worksheet to my 1040. Finally!
Critter
Level 15
June 6, 2019

MANY areas of the program are NOT functional including that one ... 


These first releases of the program are usually very buggy ( you are the beta testers even if you don't know it) and will require MANY updates before it becomes fully functional which usually will not happen until late January or sometime in February depending on the forms you need.  So patience will be needed as the IRS has not even announced when the 2019 filing season will start

 

This  past tax year, not only did the IRS have to rewrite a ton of tax code due to the late changes made in Dec of 2017  but the fools in Congress required they also toss out all the old 1040 forms  for the new "1040 Simplified" version ( which is anything but simplified since it adds 6 new schedules) and  all these changes have the IRS way behind the normal timeline so expect things to not only run late but they will be VERY BUGGY so the smart money is on the patient person who waits to file until most of the errors have been corrected.  Last time this happened many of the early filers had their returns lost or delayed for months so don't be in a hurry to jump off that cliff.


Level 4
June 6, 2019
Make sure you create QBI component worksheet in TT. GO into forms and select for, review the QBI Simple and QBI deduction summary for accuracy. In my "what if scenario" the deduction was calculated correctly on F1040. I tried with a below the 315k example for a CPA firm which is a SSTB business.  
Level 2
June 6, 2019

Hello All,

Please note that this answer is only valid if your K-1 came from an S Corp and you do not file a Schedule C. Through a lot of research and debugging I discovered that in this case TT will only handle the 20% QBI/199A deduction if your K-1 specifically (and correctly) reports 199A information on Line 17 with a Code V (Section 199A income) entry. If that exists then you will be presented with other interview questions on the subject and eventually your QBI/199A deduction will be calculated and propagated to 1040, Line 9. But what if your K-1 didn’t specifically list your 199A income, as mine didn’t? In that case TT just assumes that you don’t have 199A income and you won’t be asked anything about it EVEN THOUGH one of the hidden interview questions allows you to enter 199A info that was not reported on K-1. Obviously this is a bug in TT. EVERYONE should be asked this question whether there was 199A info on the K-1 or not.

Disclaimer: This method worked for me and it seems to be correct for my limited case. I’m just grasping at straws trying to work around this bug so I can get my return filed. This isn’t the “right” way to handle this problem. The “right” way would be for Intuit to fix it or the K-1 to be corrected to show the 199A information. Proceed with caution and double check that you get expected results. Also, my taxable income isn’t over $315k so I could skip other interview screens for more complicated cases. If your income is over the threshold then you probably should try entering your QBI value on Line 17 of your K-1 with Code V and see what happens on the low-level forms. This isn’t 100% correct and I wouldn’t recommend filing a return with a K-1 that isn’t 100% correct. This is how I ultimately devised this workaround and it may work for you, too. You’ve been warned!


Anyway... IF you had a Code V value on K-1, Line 17 you would see these additional 199A-specific interview screens:

Screen 1: Name and employer 10 number for the business
Since Section 199A Income is reported in 17 of this K-1, we need the name and employer ID number (also known as “EIN" or "tax ID number") for the business that generated this income.
    Business name ___________
    EIN of business _________

Note: Section 199A income from an S Corporation reported on a Schedule K-1 may be generated by the S Corporation or by a separate business owned by the S Corporation. If it comes from a separate business, enter the name and EIN of that business here.


Screen 2: Let's check for some uncommon adjustments
Certain uncommon items are typically not included in the Section 199A Income reported in Box 17 of your K-1. They should be included in a statement with your K-1, and you can enter them here so we can accurately calculate your Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction (also known as "Section 199A” deduction).

  O   This business has short term gains (losses) f rom the sale of business assets that are not already included in the Section 199A Income reported in Box 17

  O   This business has Section 1231 gains (losses) from qualified business assets

  O   This business received qualified cooperative payments

  X  This business has other qualified business expenses not reported with Section 199A Income (learn more)

        Other qualified business expenses __________

  O   None of these apply

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If you click on “learn more” for the “Other qualified business expenses” option you get this information. The big clue is the last paragraph.


Other qualified business expenses not reported with Section 199A Income
There are a few rare expenses that may affect the Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction (also called Section 199A deduction). If you have Section 59(e)(2) expenses, unreimbursed partnership expenses, depletion expenses, or any other business expense allocable to QBI which was not included in the Section 199A Income reported on Schedule K-1, those may be entered here if you want to include them to reduce your QBI eligible for the deduction.

Note that anything entered here is subtracted from the starting QBI amount. If you believe additional income items should have been included in the reported Section 199A Income on Schedule K-1, you may include that amount here as a negative number.

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SO... here’s how I was able to get my QBI information entered into TT without incorrectly reporting what's on my K-1, AND have TT calculate the QBI deduction and propagate the value to 1040 Line 9.

  • If you’ve already entered your K-1 I would suggest deleting it and re-entering it. A couple of times during debugging things didn’t get updated throughout the return if the K-1 changed too radically. I never had a problem if I started with a fresh K-1.
  • Enter the K-1 using the Interview. Since it doesn’t have a Code V entry on Line 17 you won’t see any interview questions regarding QBI/199A. Don't worry about it, we'll get to that later.
  • Open the K-1 Form for direct editing.
  • Go down to K-1, Page 6 - Section 😧 Qualified Business Income Deduction Info.
  • On Line A: Does this K-1 include a Section 199A business? Check Yes.

This should fill in Section D with 0’s

Per the instructions that you never saw since the interview never asked if the business qualifies for the deduction...

  • On Line E,2,d: Other non-qualified items to subtract from business income enter the NEGATIVE amount of QBI you are claiming.

e.g. if your QBI is $10,000 then enter -10,000. on this line.
 
The form will get filled out for you. While I was debugging I sometimes had to double-click on Line K "QBI worksheet to report, double click to link" and enter my official company name so that all of the supporting worksheets and links would be set up and the deduction propagated to 1040 Line 9.

Good luck. Hope this helps others get around this bug. Seems there's always a new problem in TT every year that causes me to loose a couple of days and a lot of brain cells.

~ Number 6

Level 2
March 1, 2020

Thank you so much for posting this, I have been going in circles.  

Level 2
June 6, 2019

To get the QBI deduction you need to show that you are eligible on your K-1 by checking box 20 and entering the qualifying income using code Z.

Level 2
June 6, 2019

Here are the steps that worked for me:

I created a QBI component worksheet with business title and header info, but did not populate with data.

Then at bottom of schedule c (using forms method) there was a section called qbi deduction info. Item k is what qbi component worksheet to you want to link. There are some questions in between in re SSTB (my business is not). The worksheet then filled in and created some other worksheets.

Some surprises along the way: Allowable QBI is reduced by SE insurance medical and 1/2 SE tax - because both of these were adjustments to income on sch 1.

Level 2
February 26, 2021

I just had this problem and was able to get the error to go away by going back to my K-1 S Corp income entry and following all the prompts until the end without skipping around to different parts of the program.  

Level 2
April 7, 2022

Where do I enter the QBI deduction for REITs? 

AliciaP1
Level 13
April 8, 2022

You just need to follow the step-by-step interview process to enter your K-1 from the REIT.  After you have entered the details from the K-1 it will ask about your Section 199A income and provides a screen with the line items that are listed on the Statement A - QBI Pass-through Entity.  You need to check the boxes for the line items that are populated on your statement and enter the amounts.

 

@abdb1019

 

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Level 2
April 11, 2022

How do I UNLINK the QBI worksheet from my schedule C as my business is NOT a qualified business?

Level 2
April 11, 2022

I figured it out...no answer needed.