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Is regular pension income consdered by IRS a passive income?

1. Is the Pension incomes reported on 1099R considered as passive income?
2. Are any specific passive income losses (e.g., rental real estate losses) allowed to offset the total passive incomes meaning total of all types of passive incomes?
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dmertz
Level 15

Is regular pension income consdered by IRS a passive income?

No, it is not passive income.  Passive losses cannot be applied against pension income.

Is regular pension income consdered by IRS a passive income?

then is it an earned income though it's not reported in W2 etc. but 1099R? Any reference to an IRS pub page line number would be great. 

Is regular pension income consdered by IRS a passive income?

It's not earned income either.  It is just taxed as ordinary income.  You don't get any earned income credits for it and it doesn't qualify as income for other credits either.  Like Child Care Credit.

jtax
Level 10

Is regular pension income consdered by IRS a passive income?

Bless you for asking for what lawyers call authority.

 

1. Passive income definition

 

Retirement income is not passive because the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26 of the US Code) section 469(c) defines a passive activity as: 

 

any activity— (A)which involves the conduct of any trade or business, and (B)in which the taxpayer does not materially participate.

 

Later in 469(d) it defines passive losses to be the excess of aggregate losses from passive activities over the income from passive activities and disallows passive losses in 496(a) unless an exception applies.

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/469

 

2. Earned income definition

 

The definition of "earned" vs. "unearned" income is hard to come by because it is defined in multiple places in code and that meaning is usually limited to that particular section.  Context matters.

 

The most general definition I could quickly find is in in I.R.C. 911(d)(2) https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/911#d_2  ... not sure it is helpful to you. What is the exact question. E.g. if you want to know if it is a capital gain, then look to the definition of capital gain. A passive loss/gain, then look to the definition of passive loss.

 

The term “earned income” means wages, salaries, or professional fees, and other amounts received as compensation for personal services actually rendered, but does not include that part of the compensation derived by the taxpayer for personal services rendered by him to a corporation which represents a distribution of earnings or profits rather than a reasonable allowance as compensation for the personal services actually rendered. I.R.C. 911(d)(2).

 

 

 

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dmertz
Level 15

Is regular pension income consdered by IRS a passive income?

The only time that pension income is treated as wages and earned income is if it's a payment from a disability pension received before the regular retirement age for the particular plan.

Y-FRA
Returning Member

Is regular pension income consdered by IRS a passive income?

But in this case it seems that an annuity also does not fit this definition for a passive income. However IRS publication 514 (Foreign Tax Credit) clearly tells that annuity shall be treated as passive income on the form 1116 (please see p. 12 in case publ. 514 for 2020). Could you please explain this. I would highly appreciate your opinion and explanations.

Is regular pension income consdered by IRS a passive income?

Ok ... for the form 1116 it is considered  passive income however  it is not passive for the rest of the return ... definitions vary just like the rules for the english language.   Heck there are a dozen different calculations for the AGI figure in the tax laws.  

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