My income exceeded the maximum allowable income threshold and I had to repay the social security benefits I received. I have received an SSA-1099-SM and trying to determine where to enter the information from box 4.
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You can only enter the amount from box 5 of the SSA-1099. Box 5 is the difference between box 3 minus box 4.
You can only enter the amount from box 5 of the SSA-1099. Box 5 is the difference between box 3 minus box 4.
Thanks for your quick response. I did not realize that Turbo Tax would accept a negative value from box 5.
So I do not get a credit somewhere else for Box 4 repayment
It depends. If you had to repay any social security benefits that you previously included in your taxable income then you may be able to take a deduction. The repayment must be greater than $3,000, all of which was included in your taxable social security from a prior year. If there was no previous year taxable social security income, there is nothing to do.
Keep in mind it is only a deduction or credit if you actually included the social security in your taxable income in a prior year, greater than $3,000.
If the repayment is greater than $3,000 you have two options (option 2 is most common).
Follow the steps below for the method you have selected.
Taking the Income Reduction in TurboTax
Taking the credit in TurboTax (less common)
There are two components to taking the credit in TurboTax. The first part requires determining the amount of the tax that was overpaid in the year the income was actually received. This requires using the TurboTax Desktop product (or another method) to determine what the tax liability would have been without the income.
Thanks for your assistance. I repaid a 2023 social security benefit greater than $3,000 in 2024. I am using the desktop version of Turbo Tax Premier.
Based on a previous suggestion, I tried entering the amount from line 5 on the SSA-1099-SM as a negative value under Wages & Income in the Retirement Plans and Social Security section. The federal tax due did not change. I was wondering if this is a bug in the software. The negative value is included as Social Security - nontaxable income and is subtracted from the Total Income.
Next, I tried the "income reduction" option you suggested, which also resulted in no change to the federal tax due. I suspect this was because I am claiming the standard deduction.
Finally, I tried the "credit" option you suggested by calculating the 2023 federal tax due with and without the social security income. I entered the difference in federal tax due on line D - Claim of Right, IRC 1341 credit for repayments of prior year income. This option did lower my federal tax due by the credited amount.
Did I interpret your suggestions properly? Do I still need to record the repayment amount as a negative value under 2024 Wages & Income?
Yes, you did interpret the credit properly. No you do not need to record the repayment as a negative value under your 2024 income. The income reduction did not change your tax because you used the standard deduction as you noted.
You do not reduce your income when you take the credit. There is nothing else to do now that you have the credit in place.
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