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nshemesh1
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I am being asked for the annuity cost (basis) as part of the Three-Year Rule Method. Where do I find the annuity cost (basis)?

I am looking at the screen with the heading "Three-Year Rule Method" on TurboTax Deluxe.  I am preparing a New Jersey resident return.

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I am being asked for the annuity cost (basis) as part of the Three-Year Rule Method. Where do I find the annuity cost (basis)?

The "cost" or "basis" MAY be reported on the 1099-R in box 9b "Total employee contributions". However, the cost or basis is required to be kept by the taxpayer.

Your retirement plan administrator may know what the basis is of your retirement plan, so you should call them. If you get this number, write it down and keep it in your tax records, because if your plan is passed to another retirement plan administrator, this information may or may not be passed along to the new administrator.

Also look at prior tax returns, because the same amount for basis would be entered every year.

Note that of you enter zero for the cost or basis, then 100% of the distribution would be taxable.

For more information on New Jersey retirement plan taxation, please see http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/njit6.shtml .

***Background on Basis***

"Basis" in a retirement plan is also called "cost" or "contribution". In a word, it is the amount of after-tax dollars that the taxpayer contributed to the retirement plan over the years while he/she was employed.

When the taxpayer retires, then the pension or annuity from the retirement plan begins. As the payments are made to you, each payment consists of a little bit of that "basis" and a lot of the money that the company is contributing.

You don't owe tax on the "basis" that is paid to you each period, because the "basis" is after-tax dollars that you contributed - and you don't get taxed twice on the same money.

The employer's contribution is, of course, taxable. This means, for example, that if a taxpayer received $12,000 in pension payments, that perhaps only $11,600 might be taxable if $400 of the payments were the return of the "basis"..


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I am being asked for the annuity cost (basis) as part of the Three-Year Rule Method. Where do I find the annuity cost (basis)?

The "cost" or "basis" MAY be reported on the 1099-R in box 9b "Total employee contributions". However, the cost or basis is required to be kept by the taxpayer.

Your retirement plan administrator may know what the basis is of your retirement plan, so you should call them. If you get this number, write it down and keep it in your tax records, because if your plan is passed to another retirement plan administrator, this information may or may not be passed along to the new administrator.

Also look at prior tax returns, because the same amount for basis would be entered every year.

Note that of you enter zero for the cost or basis, then 100% of the distribution would be taxable.

For more information on New Jersey retirement plan taxation, please see http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/njit6.shtml .

***Background on Basis***

"Basis" in a retirement plan is also called "cost" or "contribution". In a word, it is the amount of after-tax dollars that the taxpayer contributed to the retirement plan over the years while he/she was employed.

When the taxpayer retires, then the pension or annuity from the retirement plan begins. As the payments are made to you, each payment consists of a little bit of that "basis" and a lot of the money that the company is contributing.

You don't owe tax on the "basis" that is paid to you each period, because the "basis" is after-tax dollars that you contributed - and you don't get taxed twice on the same money.

The employer's contribution is, of course, taxable. This means, for example, that if a taxpayer received $12,000 in pension payments, that perhaps only $11,600 might be taxable if $400 of the payments were the return of the "basis"..


I am being asked for the annuity cost (basis) as part of the Three-Year Rule Method. Where do I find the annuity cost (basis)?

Why would the SAME cost basis be entered every year? Shouldn't it be different each year of the 3-year-rule, as you recover your contributions? Wouldn't the cost basis for 2020 be the portion of that year's pension distributions that are a return of your contributions to the pension? I am confused. 

ErnieS0
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I am being asked for the annuity cost (basis) as part of the Three-Year Rule Method. Where do I find the annuity cost (basis)?

You are correct @Rabble58. The cost basis of your annuity will decrease every year as you recover your contributions.

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I am being asked for the annuity cost (basis) as part of the Three-Year Rule Method. Where do I find the annuity cost (basis)?

THANK YOU!

I have been looking for that information for several days. Really appreciate the help!

I am being asked for the annuity cost (basis) as part of the Three-Year Rule Method. Where do I find the annuity cost (basis)?

So is my cost basis for 2020 the total amount of my contribution still unrecovered? Or is it the amount that I recovered that year? 

MaryK4
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I am being asked for the annuity cost (basis) as part of the Three-Year Rule Method. Where do I find the annuity cost (basis)?

Your basis is the amount NOT recovered yet.  It is used to determine the taxable part of the total.

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