My Financial Advisor pointed out to me that I did not enter a value on Line 2 of my Form 8606 with my 2019 Taxes. I started making non-deductible contributions to my Traditional IRA in 2013 and every year since. In looking at my past year's 8606 (starting in 2014) the previous year's amounts were not entered on Line 2 either.
My questions are
1: Do I need to file amended 8606 Forms for 2014 through 2019 or can I put the total amount on my 2020 from the previous year's contributions? I'm thinking not, because of the contribution limits and the total amount from the past 5 years easily exceeds the limit. And that may throw a red flag.
2: If I do need to amendments, then it appears in reading other posts, I send in the corrected 8606 for the year with the 1040-X?
3: Lastly, I've used Turbo Tax for all the years mentioned and import my info from the previous year's return. Would anyone know why the program didn't pull over Line 14 from the previous year's 8606?
Thank you in advance! I appreciate any assistance or insights.
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Please see this answer from IsabellaG:
You can file delinquent Forms 8606, even as far back as 1995, on a standalone basis, meaning that you can file them without amending your tax returns. There can be a penalty of $50 for not filing Form 8606 on a timely basis, but the penalty can be waived if you can show reasonable cause for not filing.
File these delinquent forms separately from your tax return.
See this IRS link regarding Form 8606 and see this information for suggestions regarding “reasonable cause.”
Coleen,
Thanks you. It will make it simpler to only have to send in the corrected 8606's.
I have filled my 8606's every year as required. The amount on Line 2 was not entered because it was not imported by TurboTax from the previous year's return. I do not understand how that makes it delinquent unless the IRA considers anything not correctly submitted as delinquent.
Regards
For future reference, after more digging around, it appears 'delinquent' in the tax world means even when you submitted the form but did not submit it correctly it may still be considered delinquent as if you never submitted it originally? One of the tax experts can correct me if that is correct.
Within TurboTax (TT) 2020 and years before (at least to 2013), even though I made Traditional IRA deposits, they were not deductible due to my income. Unfortunately, TT does not appear intuitive enough to know this and then automatically select 'Yes' on the "Any Nondeductible Contributions" screen or carry that amount of non-deductible contribution to your IRA Basis. It could be that TT doesn't know the contributions are non-deductible at this point as well. But you'd think it would be caught in the review.... Go figure... Unfortunately, I did not know this going back to 2013 when I first making deposits into my traditional IRA.
What I did, was as Coleen thankfully advised. I downloaded the Form 8606 forms for each of the year's I made non-deductible contributions to my IRA starting with 2014 and would have reported an increasing Total basis amount due to the previous year's non-deductible contributions. 2013 was the first year I made non-deductible contributions and did have the correct basis amount on the IRA worksheet. It appears that the form 8606 was introduced in 2014.
When fixing my 8606 forms. For 2014, I entered the amount of my non-deductible contributions in 2014 on Line 1, then on Line 2, that is the Total Basis (of non-deductible contributions) from the Previous year(s). For example, in 2014 Form 8606, Line: $1,000; Line 2: $3,000, then Line 3 would be $4,000 and becomes line 2 on my corrected 2015 Form 8606. For 2015, Line 1: $1,000; Line 2: $4,000, Line 3: $5,000 and so on until I got to 2020. Thankfully, I did not have to worry or enter any amount in lines 4 -13. Thus, Line 3 became Line 14.
Then after fixing my 8606 Forms through 2019 and obtaining the correct Total Basis, I opened TT 2020 program, and entered my total 2020 Traditional IRA contributions as requested. Then made sure I selected 'Yes', when it asked about nondeductible contributions. That brought up the entry box that allowed me to enter my Total Basis as of Dec 31, 2019. When I looked at the Form 8606 that TT generated, it had my 2020 Nondeductible contributions on Line 1, my Total Basis from 2019 on Line 2, and then the new Basis on Line 3 (also carried to Line 14), which will become Line 2 in 2021.
When I sent in my corrected Form 8606s, I did not send in a checks. If you did not submit a Form 8606, then you do owe a penalty of $50 for each year. Because I did submit the 8606s in their respective year's, but with missing info, I understood based on reading that I did not have to pay the fine. But this could go back to the understanding of 'delinquent'. I did send an accompanying letter with my revised 8606 form detailing why the changes were made.
Hopefully, this is correctly explained. It took some time to figure out and the steps I took were correct.
did you send money? That was a mistake.
you should wait for a bill from IRS. They may not impose that fine.
On the forum you will see that IRS has been asking recently for 1040-X in this situation. You might get such a letter.
Form 8606 can be filed alone, only when no Form 1040 is required. Otherwise attach 8606 to your tax return.
Use Form 1040-X to add or change info on an already filed tax return.
IRS may also want proof you did not take an IRA deduction in those years.
No, I did not send any money for fines. Thought that was clear. No letter yet, but that like everything else could take months.
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