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Bought a new primary residence, converted original home to rental - what mortgage interest deduction can I take?

OK, facts are below.  I am trying to determine what interest expense I can claim on my 2022 filing.  

 

1. Bought a house in December 2021 (house B).  Refinanced it in January 2022.  Did not sell original home (house A) so at 1/1/22, we had two homes. 

2. Lived in original home (house A) while we remodeled the new home (house B).  Moved into new home (house B) on March 25, 2022.  

3. Original house (house A) sat vacant while we prepared it for rental.  Was ready for rental and occupied by tenants from 5/1/22 - 12/31/22.  

 

I am confused about what mortgage interest I can deduct - would the IRS consider house B a second residence up until March 24, 2022?  And house A a second residence from the period of March 25, 2022 to April 30, 2022?  I am trying to  maximize my interest deduction within the confines of the tax code. 🙂

 

In addition, to complicate matters, we have a boat that meets the IRS definition of a second home.  Per IRS guidelines, you can only have one second home, so given everything that's going on with houses A and B above, can I only claim interest on the boat as a second home for the period of 5/1/22 - 12/31/22 (i.e., when house A is converted to an investment property)?

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DMarkM1
Employee Tax Expert

Bought a new primary residence, converted original home to rental - what mortgage interest deduction can I take?

Yes, you are on the right track.  First I suggest using your monthly mortgage statements to get the monthly balance on each loan for each month including the houseboat loan. 

 

You'll total the two home loan balances for each month Jan - Apr (you'll have four amounts).  You'll total the home loan balances for house B and the houseboat for each of the last 8 months (you'll have 8 amounts).  Add the 12 months and divide by 12 to get your average loan balance.  If it is below $750,000 all of your mortgage interest paid is deductible. If not, divide it by 750,000 to get a ratio that you can multiply by your loan interest to determine the deductible amount.  

 

To determine what your loan interest paid was you'll need to divide interest paid on house A by 12 and multiply by 4 to get the amount of personal home mortgage interest.  You'll do the same for the houseboat except multiply by 8 for that interest.

 

When enter the 1098 for home A you will indicate the amount is different from your 1098.  You probably don't have a 1098 for the houseboat loan so just enter the interest you calculated for box 1 amount as you will be simulating a form 1098.

 

You'll enter the remaining interest for house A in the rental property expenses section.

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Bought a new primary residence, converted original home to rental - what mortgage interest deduction can I take?

Thanks!  And for house B, all of the interest on the 1098 is deductible, correct? 

MarilynG1
Employee Tax Expert

Bought a new primary residence, converted original home to rental - what mortgage interest deduction can I take?

Yes, all of your 1098 interest for house B is deductible.  House A interest deduction is split between Itemized Deductions on Schedule A and Rental Expenses.

 

Enter it in Rental Expenses first; TurboTax will allocate the correct % to itemized deductions when you set up your Rental Property and indicate Rental Start Date. 

 

Here's more info on Rental Property Mortgage Interest.

 

 

 

 

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Carl
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Bought a new primary residence, converted original home to rental - what mortgage interest deduction can I take?

All interest on house B is a SCH A itemized deduction. All of it.

For house A, 33% of the interest (4 months of interest at 8.33% per month) is a SCH A itemized deduction. The remaining 67% is a SCH E rental deduction. This percentage is based on the dates you provided.

the percentage of interest deductible on SCH E for House A depends on the date the property was placed "in service".  Generally and typically, this is the first day a renter "could" have moved in. So if a renter "could" have moved in on 1 Feb 2022, then 11/12 or 90.75 of the interest paid on House A in 2022 would be a SCH E deduction.

Also, I don't know if you're a first time landlord, or may it's just your first time dealing with the rental stuff in the TurboTax program. Understand that there are some areas where (in my personal opinion) enough clarity is not provided, and can easily result in you providing the wrong answers to questions, making the wrong selections, or unknowingly making other mistakes in the program that the program "will" "not" catch.

When dealing with rental property, absolute perfection in that first year is not an option.... it's a must. Even the tiniest of mistakes can "and will" grow exponentially over time. Then when you catch the boo-boo years down the road (usually the year you sell the property) the cost of fixing it will be high. Therefore, I provide you the below in case you find it helpful. But still, if you still have questions and/or are not clear on something, by all means ask. I don't care how dumb you think the question may be. Remember, it's *YOUR* wallet at risk, and not mine or anyone else's.

Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence or 2nd home before, then this date is the day AFTER you moved out, or the date you decided to lease the property – whichever is later.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter was contracted to move in, and/or "could" have moved in. That would be your "in service" date or after if you were asked for that. Vacant periods between renters do not count for actual days rented. Please see IRS Publication927 page 17 at https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p527.pdf#en_US_2020_publink1000219175 Read the “Example” in the third column.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days *YOU* lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence, 2nd home, or any other personal use reasons after you converted it to a rental.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

RENTAL PROPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that Improve, restore, or otherwise “better” the property. Basically, they retain or add value to the property.

Betterments:
Expenses that may result in a betterment to your property include expenses for fixing a pre-existing defect or condition, enlarging or expanding your property, or increasing the capacity, strength, or quality of your property. An example of a pre-existing condition or defect in this context would be something such as foundation repair (slab jacking) or some other, hidden and costly, anomaly.
Restoration:
Expenses that may be for restoration include expenses for replacing a substantial structural part of your property, repairing damage to your property after you properly adjusted the basis of your property as a result of a casualty loss, or rebuilding your property to a like-new condition.
Adaptation:
Expenses that may be for adaptation include expenses for altering your property to a use that isn’t consistent with the intended ordinary use of your property when you began renting the property. Adding a wheelchair ramp would be an example.

 

Expenses for these types of costs are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria need to be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must retain or add "real" value to the property. In other words, when the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

There are rules that allow you to just flat-out expense and deduct some property improvements instead of capitalizing and depreciating them, if the total cost of the improvement was less than $2,500. It’s referred to as “safe harbor di-minimis” But depending on the specific situation, this may or may not be beneficial. Just be aware that not every property improvement that cost less than $2,500 qualifies for this. If this interest you, the rules can get complex. So a good place to start reading is on the IRS website at https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations. The stuff on di-minimis starts about one page down.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and its assets in the usable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent for the very first time are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or its assets to the same usable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent for the very first time are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a 2-bedroom house into a 3-bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.

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