Hello. These Annual Elections are detailed, intricate, and confusing. Need more context. We own a "fraction" or a "Percentage" of an apartment building through a DST investment, and the sponsor for the building has provided us with the 2021 financials that shows both the total numbers for the whole building and our portion of the total for our tax return. All numbers below are "our portion".
When TT starts out, it asks if we have purchased any items that cost $2,500 or less. So:
- Are Furniture, Fixtures & Equipment ITEMS? Costs $560 ($87 one month and $477 another month)
- Are Package Lockers an ITEM? Costs $356
If I try adding the $87 as an asset to depreciate, for the Furniture, Fixtures, and Equipment, TT then recommends I expense it because it is $200 or less. How is this different than the question regarding the $2,500 question. Is it that BOTH ITEMS & IMPROVEMENTS can be expensed if they are $200 or less? But only ITEMs from $201 to $2,500 can be expensed, not IMPROVEMENTS, through the De Minimis Safe Harbor?
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The requirements are different for personal property vs real property. It's one of those tax issues. It's important to separate the personal property (anything that is not real property in tax terms) from real property. In the tax law there are only two kinds of property.
The reason is simple. Real property has special tax treatment rules and personal property income is taxed at the ordinary or regular tax rate.
Improvements Election
This election is an option you can take each year that lets you write off some building improvements as expenses instead of assets.
Here are the rules you need to meet to take this election:
This election for building improvements is called the Safe Harbor Election for Small Taxpayers. If you decide to take this option, a form called Safe Harbor Election for Small Taxpayers will show up in your tax return. This election will apply to all your businesses, rental properties or farms. (IRS Tangible Property FAQs)
Personal Property: (As explained by our awesome Tax Expert @JulieS)
You expense the furniture in the year they are placed in service, based on your comments that will be 2021. The rental unit is rented or available for rent and advertised as such.
De Minimis Safe Harbor Election
This election for items $2,500 or less is called the De Minimis Safe Harbor Election. This election is an option you can take each year that lets you write off/deduct items $2,500 or less as expenses instead of assets. Expenses typically reduce your income by a larger amount than depreciating an asset over multiple years does. This means you could get a bigger refund.
If you decide to take this option, a form called De Minimis Safe Harbor Election will show up in your tax return. This election will apply to all your businesses, rental properties or farms.
Here are the rules you need to meet to take this election:
Note: Because you are under the $2,500 threshold, you are not required to used section 179. You can list these expenses under Miscellaneous. If the amount was over 2,500, then you would enter these as assets and then would be able to choose the 179 option.
Yes, furniture, fixtures, equipment, and package lockers are all items. Items under $200 are usually expensed, but you can depreciate them instead, if you want to stretch out the deduction.
The question that references a $2500 limit is based on the De Minimis Safe Harbor. This safe harbor election allows you to deduct expenses up to $2,500 per invoice. this applies to both items and improvements.
These questions are designed to help you figure out whether or not you need to depreciate an item or not. They also provide a "safe harbor". That means if you are audited the IRS will not question whether you should have depreciated the expense.
Thank you Julie S.
Do not understand why TT specifies ITEMS in regards to the $2,500 or less statement. And why it specifies IMPROVEMENTS later on, when it seems to be getting into the area of determining if you can expense versus depreciate using the Safe Harbor for Small Taxpayers for our rental property investments. Why doesn't TT just ask if we have any ITEMS and/or IMPROVEMENTS $2,500 or less to lessen the confusion? TT ran out of space?
Seems, based on your response, the decision process goes as follows for our rental property investments:
- If $2,500 or less, De Minimis Safe Harbor applies for BOTH ITEMS & IMPROVEMENTS
- If ITEM or IMPROVEMENT is more than $2,500, have to depreciate unless we and our rental meet the requirements for using Safe Harbor for Small Taxpayers
Thanks again!
The requirements are different for personal property vs real property. It's one of those tax issues. It's important to separate the personal property (anything that is not real property in tax terms) from real property. In the tax law there are only two kinds of property.
The reason is simple. Real property has special tax treatment rules and personal property income is taxed at the ordinary or regular tax rate.
Improvements Election
This election is an option you can take each year that lets you write off some building improvements as expenses instead of assets.
Here are the rules you need to meet to take this election:
This election for building improvements is called the Safe Harbor Election for Small Taxpayers. If you decide to take this option, a form called Safe Harbor Election for Small Taxpayers will show up in your tax return. This election will apply to all your businesses, rental properties or farms. (IRS Tangible Property FAQs)
Personal Property: (As explained by our awesome Tax Expert @JulieS)
You expense the furniture in the year they are placed in service, based on your comments that will be 2021. The rental unit is rented or available for rent and advertised as such.
De Minimis Safe Harbor Election
This election for items $2,500 or less is called the De Minimis Safe Harbor Election. This election is an option you can take each year that lets you write off/deduct items $2,500 or less as expenses instead of assets. Expenses typically reduce your income by a larger amount than depreciating an asset over multiple years does. This means you could get a bigger refund.
If you decide to take this option, a form called De Minimis Safe Harbor Election will show up in your tax return. This election will apply to all your businesses, rental properties or farms.
Here are the rules you need to meet to take this election:
Note: Because you are under the $2,500 threshold, you are not required to used section 179. You can list these expenses under Miscellaneous. If the amount was over 2,500, then you would enter these as assets and then would be able to choose the 179 option.
Thank you DianeW777 for your comprehensive and detailed response. Here are a couple of followup comments and questions:
- If I am reading the Safe Harbor for Small Taxpayers correctly, there is no $2,500 limit for a building improvement to be expensed under the Safe Harbor for Small Taxpayers as long as we meet the three rules, including the last one about the total amount of repairs and improvements not exceeding the lesser of $10,000 or 2% of the unadjusted basis of the property. Correct?
- If a property does not meet the De Minimis Safe Harbor Election requirements, and an improvement is $200 or less, is it better to expense the improvement under the Safe Harbor for Small Taxpayers (the property meets the requirements) or expense it because it is $200 or less?
- In Turbo Tax, Turbo Tax uses the terms "Item" and "Improvement". From your and JulieS's responses, am deducing that Item = Personal Property and Improvement = an improvement to Real Property. Am I correct?
Thanks, Think57
Understand that the safe harbor limits are not base on your share. It's based on the price of the invoiced item. So if the price of the invoiced item is more than $2500, it doesn't matter if your share of that is less than $2500. It doesn't qualify for safe harbor under those specific rules. (It may under other rules.)
Thanks Carl for your response. Just to be clear, you are talking about the De Minimis Safe Harbor Election?
Yes. It says that most item purchased for less than $2,500 can be expensed. That's based on the purchased price of the item, and not a partner's share of that purchase price.
In the case of a 1065 return I would expect a qualifying item to be expensed on the 1065 - not on one's personal 1040 return via the K-1.
Looking back at the first post that started this thread, what "$200 rule" are you referring to? Never heard of any such amount when it comes to the Deminimis Safe Harbor election. Maybe it's something pertaining to partnerships or some other type of business structure?
@Carl wrote:
Looking back at the first post that started this thread, what "$200 rule" are you referring to?
The "rule" was (is) that materials and supplies costing $200 or less can be expensed (deducted) rather than capitalized.
See https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations
Thanks Carl. Turbo Tax provides that option when you add an asset. Was just wondering where it came from. Perused the document you provided the link to, however, did not see the $200. Will trust Turbo Tax is correct.
Materials and supplies are tangible, non-inventory property used and consumed in your operations including:
The property need only fit into one of the above categories to qualify as a material or supply.
I have a follow-up question regarding purchased items that fit in the last bullet category.
For my rental property, I have purchased various items (e.g. Pots and Pans, Glasses, Alarm Clocks, Coffee Maker, Blu-Ray players, DVDs, Board Games, used furniture) that each cost less than $200. So, they all could be qualify as a supply?
If so, when entering my Rental property common expenses for the tax year, would I just include the cost of the above items in the Supply expense total? Or should I list them as separate items on the Any Miscellaneous Expenses screen?
Thanks!
Yes, those items would qualify as supplies that you could simply expense.
You can enter the total as "supplies" or separate them out as miscellaneous expenses (either way just make sure you retain your receipts).
Thanks for the confirmation.
Is there any benefit in listing the items as miscellaneous expense?
It would seem to be easier to enter the total as part of the Supplies.
Its my first year using Turbo Tax to expense a Rental property so trying to be diligent and correct in how I'm handling various expenses.
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