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thhbux1
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how do parents and non dependent college students file?

GOAL:  Protect the 529 earnings we parents spent on sons' college from taxes, AND ALSO maximize federal deductions across the family’s filings (mine and my two student - sons').

 

Do I say to Turbotax questions:  yes, I have education expenses

  • For the purposes of protecting 1099Q earnings I saved?
  • For the purposes of maximizing my own federal filing deductions?

OR . . . since I gifted this money to my sons, should each of them to say yes, I have education expenses

  • them to itemize their education expenses?
  • But I don't want to lose tax protection from 1099Q earnings.
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AmyC
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how do parents and non dependent college students file?

Many variables. Let's start with the 1099-Q.  If the entire 1099-Q went to qualified expenses, room and board, tuition, etc then you do not need to enter the form. It just tucks into the tax file at home. Tuition paid first 3 months of next year also qualify, see page 12, What Expenses Qualify, and page 52 for qualified distributions at IRS Publication 970, Tax Benefits for Education.

 

If the entire 1099-Q was not used for eligible expenses, then someone will need to enter it along with the total of eligible expenses and pay tax on the excess withdrawal. See who enters it here. The rules sound simple, the person who receives the funds and whose Social Security number is on the form is the one to report the 1099-Q on their tax return, if necessary.

 

Education credit - goes on the return where the student is claimed. Since both are filing on their own, they will file for any available credit. Here is where it gets a bit trickier.  

  • Please see another post of mine here for more details of the 529 exceeding college tuition and getting education credit.
  • If the 1099-Q is not used, please see another post of mine here.

 

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Hal_Al
Level 15

how do parents and non dependent college students file?

You have to crunch the numbers to see where you need to allocate the expenses for the best tax benefit for the family, overall.

 

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student, who may or may not be a dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Regardless of who's claiming what, the family can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion (particularly if the student is an undergrad, grad students are only eligible for a less generous credit). The educational expenses you claim for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses the student claims for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets you an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. 
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if you were unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits.You'll have to pay tax on the earnings,  but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

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