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Here is the scenario;
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The 1099-Q does not have to be claimed on a tax return. As long as the total of all 529 distributions does not exceed his total qualified educational costs, he does not have to report the 1099-Q. If the amount exceeds the qualified educational expenses, then the excess should be reported as other income on Form 1040.
Jill,
Thanks for that quick reply. One other bit of information... The 1098-T from the school, box 1 shows about $9,800.00. The total for all (3) 529's add up to about $19,000
Regards,
Jim
The 529 distributions can go towards room and board and still not be taxable. So, tuition is $9800. All books, other items required for an education, room and board add up to $9200 or more, the 529 distributions would not count and the forms do not need to be entered. If that is not the case, then one of the 529s may need to be entered and tax paid.
Depending on the college and expenses, there may be enough expenses to allow the child to claim some additional income and allow you to claim an education credit. The rules changed this year. Please read another post of mine for a potential increase in refund.
You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip!
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
If you do enter it, enter the 1099-Q before you enter the 1098-T and other expenses.
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Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
You have $1120 of taxable income
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings.
Jill, Amy and Hal,
Thank you for all of the information. Looks like I have some reading to do.
I appreciate the responses and the time it took.
Ok so after reading everything, I figured out how to include the room and board along with lab fees to the expenses. These will be in addition to what the school provided in box #1 of the 1098-T.
An issue I now come across is that that amount in box #1 only includes tuition for the fall 2021 semester. We paid for all of that along with part of the spring 2022 semester all in calendar year 2021. So it would appear that the 529 distributions were in excess of the expenses. When in fact they are about $3000 shy of the actual amount paid in 2021.
can I just adjust the tuition amount shown in the 1098-T?
Q. Can I just adjust the tuition amount shown in the 1098-T?
A. Yes. In the 1098-T screen, click on the link "What if this is not what I paid the school" underneath box 1. You will then be able to enter the actual amounts paid.
Or if you find it easier, just change the numbers in boxes 1& 5 to what your records show. The 1098-T that you enter in TT is not sent to the IRS.
Great, that did the trick.
Thanks so much to everyone.
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