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sirod
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

Recipient of 529 funds are my grandchildren who are not my dependents yet Fm 1099-Q shows grandparent as recipient.

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KiaraE
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

Since the grandfather is the one that contributes to the plan and his name is on the 1099-Q, he will be the one that enters this with his information. 

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KiaraE
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

Since the grandfather is the one that contributes to the plan and his name is on the 1099-Q, he will be the one that enters this with his information. 

sirod
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

Does granddaughter become his dependent?
sirod
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

If so, how do you handle it on Fm 1040?
KiaraE
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

No the granddaughter does not have to be his dependent. It is just like he is taking out a 529, the IRS doesn't care who it's going to.
maglib
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

Box 6 should have been checked as the beneficiary is the grandchild. A 1099Q is reportable only if the amount exceeds qualified tuition and education expenses and would only be reported on the students return then.  The 1099Q should be sent to the parents or whomever is claiming the student.

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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

Hello, @maglib 

But where do I enter this info on TT online software?

Thank you,

Teresa M. 

Hal_Al
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

In TurboTax (TT), enter at:

Federal Taxes Tab (Personal for H&B version)

Deductions & Credits

-Scroll down to:

--Education

  --ESA and 529 Qualified Tuition Programs (1099-Q)

Hal_Al
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Grandfather supports grandchilds college education thru 529 plan. Grandfather receives 1099-Q with his name on it. Who enters data on Fm 1040?

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent but could be a grandparent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student  who may or may not be the owner's dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's (even if the parent isn't the owner) return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $600

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 600= $240

You have $240 of taxable income  

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

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