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Are you claiming her as your dependent?
Although you are only taxed on earnings, if the full distribution was not used for room and board (or other education expenses) the tax on the distribution will be based on a ration of earnings and basis.
You must enter the 1099-Q first into the TurboTax program. Afterwards, in the expenses section (Form 1098-T) room and board expense is an option for entry.
Until Form 1099-Q is entered, room and board is not offered since that expense does not qualify to be used towards a credit, nor to offset scholarships.
Thx for your reply. After i entered the 1099-Q, I was able to go back and then the Wizard for 1098-T showed Room & Board. This is a bad bug in the Turbo tax software. It shud ask if u hv a 1099-Q to enter before showing the 1098-T wizard entries. My daughter had more Room & Board expense of $10,800 compared to the $7950 that showed as earnings in the 1099-Q. Doe she still have to file a tax return for her 1098-T ? Initially, when I had not entered the 1099-Q, Turbo asked me to have my Daughter file a tax return for the 1099-Q Earnings amount of $7950. I am guessing she doesn't need to file a tax return for her 1098-T now as the Earnings is accounted for by her Room & Board expense. is that correct ?
Correct, if the program first suggested the student claim the distribution, but now the distribution is allocated to room and board, and if the room and board is as much or more than the distribution, the student needn't claim any income in regard to the 1099-Q.
If the student is claimed as your dependent on your return, and if Form 1098-T Box 1 is larger than box 5, you would enter it for a credit.
If Form 1098-T shows more in box 5 (scholarships) than in Box 1 (tuition paid to the school) the student may need to enter Form 1098-T on their tax return to report the income. Of course Books and Supplies would also need to be accounted for.
I assume the programmers don't offer room and board until after Form 1099-Q is entered because that expense cannot be used for a credit and people would be asking why room and board is an option when it doesn't matter.
The Education section is very complicated because payments and expenses can be allocated in order to get a credit.
For example, if tuition was 5,000 and the distribution was 5,000, the program may suggest the student claim 4,000 so that the person claiming the student gets an education credit. Usually the credit is worth more than the tax and often the student doesn't meet the filing requirements and therefore there is no tax at all and still the taxpayer claiming the student gets the credit.
After entering the room and board, you can go back through the interview and select "Maximize my tax break" to see if the program is still suggesting the student claim any income.
You can type letme into the search to see if an education credit is being claimed and how much in expenses is being used for a credit. (you can also change it here as well)
Q. I am guessing she doesn't need to file a tax return for her 1098-T now as the Earnings is accounted for by her Room & Board expense. is that correct ?
A. No.
You do not compare her $10,800 room & board (R&B) expense to the $7950 earnings in box 2 of the 1099-Q. You compare her R&B to the full distribution shown in box 1 of the 1099-Q. Box 1 must be equal to or less than $10,800 for the distribution to be tax free (or you need to allocate some other expenses (tuition, books, a computer) to the 1099-Q.
Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
There is $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax.
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