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Raglop
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Entering 1099-Q and 1098-T information increases my Fed and state taxes

Even though my gross distribution on my 1099-Q is equal to all of my qualified college expenses (form 1098-T plus room and board), my tax liability increases when I enter my information into turbo-tax.  I've found that if I overstate my eligible expense by $10K, my tax liability stays flat. Is there some type of cap? Thanks!

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Hal_Al
Level 15

Entering 1099-Q and 1098-T information increases my Fed and state taxes

Q.  Is there some type of cap? 

A. No. There's some kinda glitch in TurboTax.  It assumes you want to use $10K of expenses to claim the tuition credit, whether you do or not, or even if just using $4000 of expenses gives you the same credit.

 

You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip! 

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

You have $1120 of taxable income  

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

 

 

 

 

JillS56
Expert Alumni

Entering 1099-Q and 1098-T information increases my Fed and state taxes

No, there is not a cap with the 1099-Q or the 1098-T

 

If you have entered your 1099-Q and your 1098-T and you have excess then the excess will be treated as income. 

 

You are not required to report a 1098-T on your tax return.  To calculate if you are eligible for AOTC, take the amount in Box 5 (scholarships) of the 1098-T and subtract the amount in Box 1, this is the amount that would be eligible for the tuition credit.  If you received more in scholarships Box 5 than the tuition in Box 1, the excess is taxable and should be reported as Other Income.  However, if the amount in Box 1 is more than Box 5, then you might not want to report the 1098-T.   

 

Funds distributed from a 529 Plan, will be reported by the bank on a Form 1099-Q.   The 1099-Q is sent to the owner/recipient of the 529 Plan funds.   The Form 1099-Q is to be reported as income if they were not used to pay qualified college tuition/expenses.    If the amount reported on the 1099-Q were used to cover qualified college tuition/expenses you do not need to report the income.  If the amount exceeds the amount of college tuition/ expenses then the excess needs to be reported as other income on your 1040.   

 

In summary, if the 1099-Q distribution is enough to cover the tuition, room and board, other expenses, and Box 1 of the 1098-T is more than Box 5, then you might not want to report the 1098-T as this will create excess income and you will have to report the income as other income.   The 1098-Q does not have to be reported, but it does need to be taken into consideration and if you are going to attempt to get the AOTC credit, then you do need to report the 1099-Q on your taxes, which in your case, comes out that you owe income.  The 1098-Q should also be reported if the distribution was more than your tuition, room and board, etc.    

 

Sounds to me like you will not receive the AOTC credit.

 

What are the Education Credits?

@Raglop     [EDITED 3/12/2022   1:57 PM PST]

 

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