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BobR28
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1099-Q Box 5

The 1099-Q box 5 that we received does not have any of the boxes checked.  Turbo Tax does not let me leave a box unchecked when entering the information.  It is putting all of the box 2 earnings into income if I choose "State".  We have a Prepaid Tuition plan in the State of Kentucky.  I thought it was not taxable if it was used for qualified education expenses.   Is there a method to leave the boxes in box 5  unchecked in Turbo Tax?  Does Turbo Tax handle Prepaid Tuition plans correctly ? 

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AmyC
Expert Alumni

1099-Q Box 5

Yes, the program expects the 1098-T to be entered before you add the 1099-Q.

 

Note, if all of the 109-Q went towards eligible expenses, you are not required to enter the 1099-Q.

For more information about the 1099-Q click on this link: Guide to IRS Form 1099-Q.

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BobR28
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1099-Q Box 5

Amy, 

 

  The 1098-T information has been entered.  I printed out the Student Information Worksheet.  Part V - Education Assistance has in the Tax Free column both the scholarships and the Prepaid Tuition amounts.  I think the problem is coming from Part VI - Education Expenses.  For the Qualified Higher Education Expense for 529 Plan, lets say line 13  Total Qualified Expenses equaled 1,000 and line 15 Tax-Free assistance equaled 1,200 .  Line 19 Total Adjustments would then equal 1,200.  Line 20 Adjusted Qualified Expenses would equal 0.00 in TurboxTax.  This 0.00 amount will be used in the "for purposes of Regular tax" in Part VIII Qualified Tuition Program lines g and h for Adjusted Qualified Higher Education Expenses and applied.  When this happens it is saying that we don't have any Qualified Higher Education expenses and is using the amount from box 2 of the 1099-Q  as taxable earnings.

 

  Should we still have 1000.00 of qualified expenses instead of the 0.00 that TurboTax is calculating ?  Should the difference between the qualified expenses and the scholarships of 200.00 in this example be the amount added as income ( or it looks like a percentage is being calculated based on the box 2 amount )  ? 

DavidS127
Expert Alumni

1099-Q Box 5

If you used a state Prepaid Tuition program for the amount reported on your 1099-Q, the correct selection for question 5 is "State".

 

More information may help diagnose your issue.  For example, on what line in Part V of the Student Info Worksheet is the $1,000 reported on your 1099-Q?  And what is reported in box 5 of Form 1098-T?  Is there an amount on line 17 of the Student Info Worksheet?

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Hal_Al
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1099-Q Box 5

Box 5 is not the cause of the problem.

 

It's complicated. Turbotax (TT) needs to match the expenses to the withdrawal, taking into account any scholarships and tuition credit/deduction claimed*. 

 

Since it was all used for qualified education expenses, the simple thing to do is just not enter the 1099-Q in TT. 

 

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

 

That said, you may actually want to pay some tax on the distribution, if it allows you to claim a tuition credit. Read on for a full explanation.

 

* One possibility is that TT has allocated some of the expenses to a tuition credit. 

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) including Pre paid plans

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $600

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free

60%x600= $360

You have $240 of taxable income (600-360)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

 ***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit.

 

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