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What are the actual numbers? Are you working on the student's return or the parent's? One usual explanation is that TurboTax (TT) allocates $4000 of tuition, from box 1, to the American Opportunity Credit (AOC). Then there may not be enough tuition left to allocate to the scholarship.
Hi there,
First off, thank you for all the information you've shared on the 1098-t loophole. Just want to make sure I understand correctly. If our son's 1098-t has BOX 1 $7485.50 and BOX 5 $15,501 on our taxes we put $4,000 for BOX 1 and 0 for the rest of the boxes.
When doing our son's taxes originally we put the two numbers from above for BOX 1 & 5. I didn't get the "Amount used to claim the tuition credit" on the dependent interview. So, I went to the student info WS in his taxes (part VI, line 20) and it isn't there for the "Adjusted qualified expenses" so I went back to his interview section and changed the $7485.50 to $3485.50. Is that correct so far?
He also had $754 in "Education expenses not tuition & enrollment fees".
After doing all this when we go back to our tax return and in the parent interview for "Any scholarship paid for room and board" do we put the $12,015.50 (BOX 5 - BOX 1 + $4,000) or do we put $11,261.50 (right above - the other edu expenses) or do we put nothing for that question?
We really appreciate all your knowledge on this!
I think you said Box 1 was more than Box 5 in your original post, but then you say Box 1 was 7,485.50 and Box 5 was 15,501.
Are those the correct numbers?
The dependent student's TurboTax program will not do the calculation for the credit and will not tell you what the student needs to claim. That calculation is done on the parent's return if the parent is claiming the student and also claiming the education credit.
Q. After doing all this when we go back to our tax return and in the parent interview for "Any scholarship paid for room and board" do we put the $12,015.50 (BOX 5 - BOX 1 + $4,000) or do we put $11,261.50 (right above - the other edu expenses) or do we put nothing for that question?
A. Earlier you said "we put $4,000 for BOX 1 and 0 for the rest of the boxes". If you got the right result ($2500 American Opportunity Credit-AOTC), don't change anything.
This thread is 3 pages long. I'm not going to go back and see what's already been said. So, this may be a repeat.
You essentially have to use a work around in TurboTax (TT). Here's how I would do it. Enter the 1098-T, on your return, but only enter $4000 in box 1. No other numbers. You only enter the 1098-T to get TurboTax to check the proper box on form 8863. Lying to TurboTax to get it to do what you want does not constitute lying to the IRS. The 1098-T that you enter in TT is not sent to the IRS.
Enter the 1098-T, exactly as received, on the student's return. Enter book and computer expenses separately. In his interview, you should eventually reach a screen called "Amount used to calculate education credit" (or similar wording). Be sure the amount in that box is $4000. That will put all his excess scholarship as income on his return (line 8r of Schedule 1).
Be advised some people are saying they're not getting the "Amount used to claim the tuition credit" (or “Education Expenses used for a Tax Credit”) screen on the dependent’s interview. Check the student information work sheet (part VI, line 17) to verify it was entered. If not, the alternate workaround is to enter $4000 less than the actual box 1 amount, when you enter the 1098-T. So, yes, that's correct so far.
There's yet another (and simplest) work around. Manually calculate the taxable amount of scholarship and enter the 1098-T, on his return, with 0 in box 1 and the taxable amount in box 5 (15501 -7486 -754 +4000 = $11261). In that case the amount in the "Amount used to claim the tuition credit" box is 0 (if it comes up).
Before doing that, it may be helpful to first delete the previously entered 1098-T and start over, so that there's not conflicting data still hanging around.
Yeah, I was looking at our other son's 1098-Tand clearly not thinking straight when I sent that message :(
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