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Became self employed as a mortgage loan originator. Have LLC, no employees other than me, under $10K in business income in 18, had substantial expenses. How do I file?

 
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DDollar
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Became self employed as a mortgage loan originator. Have LLC, no employees other than me, under $10K in business income in 18, had substantial expenses. How do I file?

Unless you made an election for your LLC to be taxed as a S-Corp, you would file as self-employed, and will need to use TurboTax Self-Employed if using the online program, or TurboTax Home & Business if you use TurboTax Desktop.  It's OK to have substantial  expenses that exceed your revenue when you first start in business.

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DDollar
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Became self employed as a mortgage loan originator. Have LLC, no employees other than me, under $10K in business income in 18, had substantial expenses. How do I file?

Unless you made an election for your LLC to be taxed as a S-Corp, you would file as self-employed, and will need to use TurboTax Self-Employed if using the online program, or TurboTax Home & Business if you use TurboTax Desktop.  It's OK to have substantial  expenses that exceed your revenue when you first start in business.

Became self employed as a mortgage loan originator. Have LLC, no employees other than me, under $10K in business income in 18, had substantial expenses. How do I file?

Thank you! So what dictates when I need to start filing business taxes? Anything special I need to do, other than declaring, if I used my IRA to live or get business going?
DDollar
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Became self employed as a mortgage loan originator. Have LLC, no employees other than me, under $10K in business income in 18, had substantial expenses. How do I file?

You will start paying "business taxes" when you start making a profit.  With a single member LLC, you are considered a disregarded entity for tax purposes by the IRS, which means you are self employed.  All your income and all you business expenses go on Schedule C as part of your personal return.

Became self employed as a mortgage loan originator. Have LLC, no employees other than me, under $10K in business income in 18, had substantial expenses. How do I file?

Thank you! You guys are great help!

Became self employed as a mortgage loan originator. Have LLC, no employees other than me, under $10K in business income in 18, had substantial expenses. How do I file?

Some general info.  You will need to keep good records.  You may get a 1099Misc at the end of the year if someone pays you more than $600 but you need to report all your income no matter how small.  You might want to use Quicken or QuickBooks to keep track of your income and expenses.  

There is also QuickBooks Self Employment bundle you can check out which includes one Turbo Tax Online Self Employed  return....
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://quickbooks.intuit.com/self-employed">http://quickbooks.intuit.com/self-employed</a>

To report your self employment income you will fill out schedule C in your personal 1040 tax return and pay SE self employment Tax.  You will need to use the Online Self Employed version or any Desktop program but the Desktop Home & Business version will have the most help.

Self Employment tax (Scheduled SE) is automatically generated if a person has $400 or more of net profit from self-employment.  You pay 15.3% SE tax on 92.35% of your Net Profit greater than $400.  The 15.3% self employed SE Tax is to pay both the employer part and employee part of Social Security and Medicare.  So you get social security credit for it when you retire.  You do get to take off the 50% ER portion of the SE tax as an adjustment on Schedule 1 line 27.  The SE tax is already included in your tax due or reduced your refund.  It is on the Schedule 4 line 57.  The SE tax is in addition to your regular income tax on the net profit.

Here is some IRS reading material……

IRS information on Self Employment
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Self-Employed-Individuals-Tax-Center"...>

Pulication 334, Tax Guide for Small Business
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p334.pdf">http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p334.pdf</a>

Publication 535 Business Expenses
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p535.pdf">http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p535.pdf</a>

PAYING ESTIMATES
The first year you don't need to pay estimates as long as you pay in (by withholding) as much as your tax was last year.  But if you will have a big income you should send in estimates so you don't owe too much next April on your tax return.

You must make quarterly estimated tax payments for the current tax year if both of the following apply:
- 1. You expect to owe at least $1,000 in tax for the current tax year, after subtracting your withholding and credits.
 
- 2. You expect your withholding and credits to be less than the smaller of:
    90% of the tax to be shown on your current year’s tax return, or
  100% of the tax shown on your prior year’s tax return. (Your prior year tax return must cover all 12 months.)

To prepare estimates for next year you start with your current return, but be careful not to change anything.  For Online versions, if you can't get back into your return, Click on Add a State to let you back into your retun.

You can just type W4 in the search box at the top of your return , click on Find. Then Click on Jump To and it will take you to the estimated tax payments section. Say no to changing your W-4 and the next screen will start the estimated taxes section.

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