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"Can a capital loss from a trust be entered on K-1 line 4a if it is not a final?"
No. To the extent that capital losses exceed capital gains, all such losses are allocated to the fiduciary (the trust).
Capital losses may be carried forward indefinitely and those that have not been used can be passed through to the beneficiaries in the trust's final year. See Treas. Reg. § 1.642(h)-1
"Can a capital loss from a trust be entered on K-1 line 4a if it is not a final?"
No. To the extent that capital losses exceed capital gains, all such losses are allocated to the fiduciary (the trust).
Capital losses may be carried forward indefinitely and those that have not been used can be passed through to the beneficiaries in the trust's final year. See Treas. Reg. § 1.642(h)-1
A First point: The ability to allocate, and pay, capital gains or distribute losses to beneficiaries is not only a matter of whether or not it is provided in the Trust document but also whether or not the resident state (that is, the state of residence for the trust, which is the state of residence for the trustee) in fact taxes gains at the Trust level and not at the beneficiary level. You must determine that.
In regard to capital gain, some states will tax the Trust irrespective of whether or not the gain was distributed under the provisions cited following herein.
Under the traditional definition of fiduciary accounting income (FAI), capital gains (and inherently Losses) are typically excluded from distributable net income (DNI) and, thus, are taxed at the trust level.
The implementation of the Uniform Principal and Income Act of 1997 (UPAIA) and the 2004 revisions to the regulations under Sec. 643 [15 U.S. Code §?634] have provided fiduciaries with some flexibility in making distributions of capital gains but not losses to beneficiaries. Tax advisers should understand the options available under state law, including the "power to adjust" and "unitrust" provisions, and how those provisions intersect with Treasury Regs. Sec. 1.643(a)-3.
The fiduciary can pass the capital gains (as to losses, this would be unlikely) through to the income beneficiary only if the capital gain income can be included in DNI as described in Treas. Regs. §1.643(a)-(3), effective for tax years ending after January 2, 2004. The regulations state that capital gains (unclear how capital losses could be applied to DNI) are properly included in DNI to the extent that the governing instrument and applicable law, or by a reasonable and impartial exercise of discretion by the fiduciary, are:
Capital Gains (but unclear as to statute or Act that capital Losses apply) can under certain conditions be included in the DNI calculation if any of the following apply:
So, provision 1 would allocate gain to DNI and therefore would be taxable to the beneficiary. Provision 2 would allocate gain to the Trust (and the Trust would pay the C/G tax) and gain proceeds are distributed. Provision 3 relates to when a fixed distribution is required and the income received is insufficient.
To reiterate, many states that tax Trusts (indeed, those that also tax live persons) require that the gain be a taxable event within the trust irrespective of the proceeds being distributed.
HOWEVER:
Very good. What would you say about the final fiduciary return on a simple trust with a short term loss deductible in current year tax return? What code should used on the K-1 to record the short term loss? Row 11 of the K-1 requires a code. The options appear to be for a loss carryover.
This response is interesting as carrying forward losses appears to be unavailable in the Turbotax 1041 program unless the "active" participation box is checked on Schedule E, and checking that box causes an error messge that says active status is generally unavailable to trusts.
@gnm9135 a simple trust becomes a complex trust in the year of termination.
@damesq wrote:
This response is interesting as carrying forward losses appears to be unavailable in the Turbotax 1041 program unless the "active" participation box is checked on Schedule E, and checking that box causes an error messge that says active status is generally unavailable to trusts.
Enter Forms Mode and check your Form 8582 for the carryforward.
Only individuals are allowed the special $25,000 allowance for active participation per Section 469(i).
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