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What is the difference between Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax) and Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

Hi,

 

What is the difference between the following:

1. Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax)

Costs flat $389 and is available here:

https://turbotax.intuit.com/personal-taxes/compare/online/

 

2. Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

Costs flat $17 per month and is available here:

https://quickbooks.intuit.com/self-employed/

 

I'm starting out a Single Member LLC as a side hustle while working on a W2 job.

I want to record all my business expenses and need a way to file the federal and state taxes while needing expert help (CPA).

Which of the above two works best for me?

 

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What is the difference between Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax) and Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

What is the difference between the following:

1. Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax)

Costs flat $389 and is available here:

https://turbotax.intuit.com/personal-taxes/compare/online/

 

This has no accounting program included and the return is done for you NOT using the TT program.  Anyone who prepares a return for money MUST use a professional tax program and sign the return. 

 

2. Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

Costs flat $17 per month and is available here:

https://quickbooks.intuit.com/self-employed/

 

This option includes the Quickbooks DIY accounting program plus one free federal & state e-filing using the DIY TT program. 

 

I'm starting out a Single Member LLC as a side hustle while working on a W2 job.

I want to record all my business expenses and need a way to file the federal and state taxes while needing expert help (CPA).

Which of the above two works best for me?  Option 2 ... the bookkeeping option will transfer the info to the DIY TT program making the filing easier.

 

 

If you are new to being self employed, are not incorporated or in a partnership  and  are acting as your own bookkeeper and tax preparer you need to get educated ....  

If you have net self employment income of $400 or more you have to file a schedule C in your personal 1040 return for self employment business income. You may get a 1099-NEC for some of your income but you need to report all your income.  So you need to keep your own good records. Here is some reading material……

IRS information on Self Employment….
http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Self-Employed-Individuals-Tax-Center 

Publication 334, Tax Guide for Small Business
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p334.pdf 



Publication 535 Business Expenses
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p535.pdf 

 

Home Office Expenses … Business Use of the Home

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/home-office-deduction

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p587.pdf

 

Publication 463 Travel, Gift, and Car Expenses

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p463.pdf 

 

 

Publication 946 … Depreciation

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p946.pdf

          

There is also QuickBooks Self Employment bundle you can check out which includes one Turbo Tax Self Employed return and will help you keep up in your bookkeeping all year along with calculating the estimated payments needed ....
http://quickbooks.intuit.com/self-employed

          
Self Employment tax (Scheduled SE) is generated if a person has $400 or more of net profit from self-employment on Schedule C.  You pay 15.3% for 2017 SE tax on 92.35% of your Net Profit greater than $400.  The 15.3% self employed SE Tax is to pay both the employer part and employee part of Social Security and Medicare.  So you get social security credit for it when you retire.  You do get to take off the 50% ER portion of the SE tax as an adjustment on line 27 of the 1040.  The SE tax is already included in your tax due or reduced your refund.  It is on the 1040 line 57.  The SE tax is in addition to your regular income tax on the net profit.
 


PAYING ESTIMATES
For SE self employment tax - if you have a net profit (after expenses) of $400 or more you will pay 15.3% for 2017  SE Tax on 92.35% of your net profit in addition to your regular income tax on it. So if you have other income like W2 income your extra business income might put you into a higher tax bracket.

You must make quarterly estimated tax payments for the current tax year (or next year) if both of the following apply:
- 1. You expect to owe at least $1,000 in tax for the current tax year, after subtracting your withholding and credits. 
 
- 2. You expect your withholding and credits to be less than the smaller of: 
    90% of the tax to be shown on your current year’s tax return, or 
  100% of the tax shown on your prior year’s tax return. (Your prior year tax return must cover all 12 months.)

To prepare estimates for next year, You can just type W4 in the search box at the top of your return , click on Find. Then Click on Jump To and it will take you to the estimated tax payments section. Say no to changing your W-4 and the next screen will start the estimated taxes section.

OR Go to….
Federal Taxes or Personal (H&B version)
Other Tax Situations
Other Tax Forms
Form W-4 and Estimated Taxes - Click the Start or Update button

 

How does my side job affect my taxes?

You’re considered self-employed—even if it’s just something you do on the side, like drive for Uber, babysit, or blog.

Your taxes are handled differently than when you’re an employee of a company.

As a self-employed individual you:

  • will pay self-employment tax (because income tax and Social Security aren’t deducted from your pay)
  • will get a 1099-MISC or 1099-K (unless you only accept cash or personal checks)
  • file a Schedule C, Form 1040 (this is how you report business expense or loss of income)
  • can deduct money you spent on work-related expenses (like mileage, home office expenses, and cell phone use)
  • can estimate the taxes that are due and make quarterly estimated tax payments during the year

Get started by entering your income from self-employment. We’ll handle the rest, from creating the forms you need to reviewing work-related expenses that can help reduce your taxes.

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What is the difference between Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax) and Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

What is the difference between the following:

1. Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax)

Costs flat $389 and is available here:

https://turbotax.intuit.com/personal-taxes/compare/online/

 

This has no accounting program included and the return is done for you NOT using the TT program.  Anyone who prepares a return for money MUST use a professional tax program and sign the return. 

 

2. Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

Costs flat $17 per month and is available here:

https://quickbooks.intuit.com/self-employed/

 

This option includes the Quickbooks DIY accounting program plus one free federal & state e-filing using the DIY TT program. 

 

I'm starting out a Single Member LLC as a side hustle while working on a W2 job.

I want to record all my business expenses and need a way to file the federal and state taxes while needing expert help (CPA).

Which of the above two works best for me?  Option 2 ... the bookkeeping option will transfer the info to the DIY TT program making the filing easier.

 

 

If you are new to being self employed, are not incorporated or in a partnership  and  are acting as your own bookkeeper and tax preparer you need to get educated ....  

If you have net self employment income of $400 or more you have to file a schedule C in your personal 1040 return for self employment business income. You may get a 1099-NEC for some of your income but you need to report all your income.  So you need to keep your own good records. Here is some reading material……

IRS information on Self Employment….
http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Self-Employed-Individuals-Tax-Center 

Publication 334, Tax Guide for Small Business
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p334.pdf 



Publication 535 Business Expenses
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p535.pdf 

 

Home Office Expenses … Business Use of the Home

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/home-office-deduction

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p587.pdf

 

Publication 463 Travel, Gift, and Car Expenses

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p463.pdf 

 

 

Publication 946 … Depreciation

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p946.pdf

          

There is also QuickBooks Self Employment bundle you can check out which includes one Turbo Tax Self Employed return and will help you keep up in your bookkeeping all year along with calculating the estimated payments needed ....
http://quickbooks.intuit.com/self-employed

          
Self Employment tax (Scheduled SE) is generated if a person has $400 or more of net profit from self-employment on Schedule C.  You pay 15.3% for 2017 SE tax on 92.35% of your Net Profit greater than $400.  The 15.3% self employed SE Tax is to pay both the employer part and employee part of Social Security and Medicare.  So you get social security credit for it when you retire.  You do get to take off the 50% ER portion of the SE tax as an adjustment on line 27 of the 1040.  The SE tax is already included in your tax due or reduced your refund.  It is on the 1040 line 57.  The SE tax is in addition to your regular income tax on the net profit.
 


PAYING ESTIMATES
For SE self employment tax - if you have a net profit (after expenses) of $400 or more you will pay 15.3% for 2017  SE Tax on 92.35% of your net profit in addition to your regular income tax on it. So if you have other income like W2 income your extra business income might put you into a higher tax bracket.

You must make quarterly estimated tax payments for the current tax year (or next year) if both of the following apply:
- 1. You expect to owe at least $1,000 in tax for the current tax year, after subtracting your withholding and credits. 
 
- 2. You expect your withholding and credits to be less than the smaller of: 
    90% of the tax to be shown on your current year’s tax return, or 
  100% of the tax shown on your prior year’s tax return. (Your prior year tax return must cover all 12 months.)

To prepare estimates for next year, You can just type W4 in the search box at the top of your return , click on Find. Then Click on Jump To and it will take you to the estimated tax payments section. Say no to changing your W-4 and the next screen will start the estimated taxes section.

OR Go to….
Federal Taxes or Personal (H&B version)
Other Tax Situations
Other Tax Forms
Form W-4 and Estimated Taxes - Click the Start or Update button

 

How does my side job affect my taxes?

You’re considered self-employed—even if it’s just something you do on the side, like drive for Uber, babysit, or blog.

Your taxes are handled differently than when you’re an employee of a company.

As a self-employed individual you:

  • will pay self-employment tax (because income tax and Social Security aren’t deducted from your pay)
  • will get a 1099-MISC or 1099-K (unless you only accept cash or personal checks)
  • file a Schedule C, Form 1040 (this is how you report business expense or loss of income)
  • can deduct money you spent on work-related expenses (like mileage, home office expenses, and cell phone use)
  • can estimate the taxes that are due and make quarterly estimated tax payments during the year

Get started by entering your income from self-employment. We’ll handle the rest, from creating the forms you need to reviewing work-related expenses that can help reduce your taxes.

saadfahim
Returning Member

What is the difference between Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax) and Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

Thanks for such a detailed and helpful feedback. I really appreciate it!

 

Can you please let me know whether QB Self Employed is cloud-based (online) or offline (desktop)?

 

If it's offline, would I be able to add an accountant to review my books before filling the taxes?

What is the difference between Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax) and Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

It is online only  and your accountant  can look at it if you give them the user ID and password  or a P&L.  Talk to them first ... they may suggest using the downloaded version instead (my personal choice for my clients). 

saadfahim
Returning Member

What is the difference between Self-Employed Full Service (Turbotax) and Self-Employed Live Tax Bundle (quickbooks)

Thanks again 

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