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I've been married many years but I've always kept things separate from my husband due to his many legal problems. Though I've been married I have always filed single or head of household and claimed my two boys. A tax professional has always prepared my taxes, however after doing research online I have found that legally I was required to file married joint. How do I resolve this problem,

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I can't address the whole long story.

 

However, there was no reason to file separately when he was disabled.  SSI (supplemental security income) is needs-based and having a spouse income might affect eligibility, but SSDI (social security disability insurance) is earned by working and can't be taken away even if you are married and your spouse is a millionaire.

 

If he never filed tax returns when you were single, that is problem that could result in an audit at any time.  But the fact that he might have tax problems from before the marriage is not an issue if you file correct joint returns during the marriage. 

 

I suggest you speak to a different tax professional who can review the entire situation.

 

Filing MFJ for all the years after you married, including amending all your prior returns, is probably the way to go.  But you may not need to go back farther than 3 years. 

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To add a few thoughts:

 

You first need to decide if you are comfortable with filing Jointly or not.  You started off saying you wanted to keep things separate due to your husband's legal problems, so maybe filing as Married Filing Separately would be best for that aspect, even if it results in more tax.  You can discuss it with a tax professional and/or lawyer to determine if your husband's legal issues may be a consideration or not.

 

Although in many cases filing Jointly results in less tax than filing Separately, that is not always the case.  This COULD be one of those cases where separately might work out better (at least for some of the years).

 

Despite popular opinion, if you and your husband file Separately, his Social Security is NOT fully taxable.  If he has $0 of other income, only 42.5% is potentially subject to tax.  But his Standard Deduction would eliminate any tax.

 

If you filed Jointly, MORE of his Social Security could be subject to tax due to your income.  While you would benefit from the Joint Standard Deduction, the increased amount of his taxable Social Security could result in more tax.  Based on the amounts you mentioned for your income, most years would still probably be a better tax-result filing jointly, but I suspect that 2020 MIGHT end up better filing Separately.

 

While the other comments are correct that a person can't claim their spouse as a "dependent" when filing Separately, there *IS* a rule that when a spouse has $0 of gross income, the other spouse can claim his "exemption" when filing Separately.  It is possible that you misunderstood and that was what the tax preparer was referring to.  However, because some of your husband's Social Security is potentially subject to tax (which your tax preparer may not have realized), that rule does not apply to you.

 

I agree that going to a good tax professional is your best option.  You can first discuss if you are comfortable with filing Jointly due to your husband's legal problems.  Then *IF* you and your husband are comfortable with filing Jointly, your tax preparer can determine the best tax-result (as I mentioned before, 2020 in particular could possibly be tax-beneficial to file Separately).  And your tax professional can help you determine the pros and cons to how many tax returns to amend (if any).

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Basically you will have to file amended returns for some number of previous years to change to either married filing jointly or married filing separately. You should consult a local tax professional for help with filing the amended returns. You should discuss your husband's "legal issues" with the tax professional and ask for advice on which filing status is best for you. I would not go back to the tax preparer who has been filing incorrect tax returns for you.

 

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Thank you for your reply, I'm very upset and distraught over the situation for I thought she was filing our taxes properly and in our best interests. My husband's disabled and was in a terrible accident in 2019 so the filing status she put down was head of household and listed him as a dependent with the relationship stating other. I will have to go back through my taxes and look at them and I don't know if I need to get legal advice at this point?

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@user17519030363 wrote:

Thank you for your reply, I'm very upset and distraught over the situation for I thought she was filing our taxes properly and in our best interests. My husband's disabled and was in a terrible accident in 2019 so the filing status she put down was head of household and listed him as a dependent with the relationship stating other. I will have to go back through my taxes and look at them and I don't know if I need to get legal advice at this point?


You were never allowed to file as HOH (unless you were actually separated and living apart)—your options were married filing jointly or married filing separately.  Your spouse was never allowed to be your dependent.  

 

MFJ usually results in lower taxes, but it depends on your spouse's income.  MFS almost always results in higher taxes owed but it has the advantage that your taxes are separate from your spouse.   I don't know what "legal trouble" you think you might have.  When you file jointly, you agree that you are equally responsible for all facts on the return and all the taxes.  So if your spouse is cheating on their taxes, or hasn't been paying their business taxes, that is a very good reason to file separately.   However, just being disabled would not be a reason that I think of to file separately. 

 

The IRS can audit you for 3 years from the filing date, or 6 years if you mis-stated your tax by more than 25%.  2019 was due May 17, 2020 (due to the pandemic), so the 3 years has passed but 6 years has not.  I can't tell without looking at your returns whether or not you are exposed to the 6 year statute of limitations or 3 years.  Some states have 4 years instead of 3 years.  The same is true for 2020 and 2021 tax years, where the 3 year deadline has passed but not the 6 year deadline. 

 

If you file an amended return to change to MFJ for 2019, 2020 or 2021, any additional refund that might be due won't actually be paid, because of the 3 year deadline, but I would recommend it so all the correct information is on file.  (A few things can carry over from year to year.).  If you change from HOH to MFS for 2019, 2020 or 2021, you will likely owe tax, and that will come with penalties and interest that will likely double what you owe.

 

I can't recommend because I don't know your situation, how much money is at stake, or why you decided not to file jointly in the first place.  But here are my suggestions:

 

If you need help deciding whether to file separately or jointly, you should get advice from a tax attorney for your situation.

 

If you decide to file jointly, then you can file the amended returns yourself, you do not need legal help unless you want it.  However, you may not be able to purchase tax software going as far back as 2019, so you might still need a tax pro unless you can fill out the forms by hand using the forms and instructions from the IRS web site.  File amended returns for all years when you incorrectly filed as HOH, some older refunds won't be paid but you may be due refunds from more recent years, especially if your spouse does not work.  (If your spouse did work, they should also have been filing MFS.  Combining the two returns into one amended return has some extra steps, but it is still possible using consumer software like Turbotax.)

 

If you decide to change to married filing separately, I suggest seeing a tax pro.   You want advice on whether to amend the returns that are more than 3 years old, or just let that lie (since the IRS has not audited you).  Then for more recent returns, you can prepare amended returns to change from HOH to MFS, determine the amount of back taxes you owe, and estimate the interest and penalties.  If the amount is significant, your pro can help negotiate a settlement. 

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Just a thought,  possibly before you were married did you file Single with him as a dependent?  That was ok.  Then she didn't change it when you got married?   

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In 2018 my husband was in an accident his employer had no insurance. Approximately the beginning of 2019 he started receiving social security disability which paid him 1948 a month. In 2019 I made $30,400, 18 I made 32,492. In 2020 my salary was $57 thousand only because my company closed and I got severance pay. I didn't go back to work until 22 and that year I only made 27520,with those dollar amounts and his social security disability I don't think I would have owed any taxes. When the pandemic hit in 2000 I stopped working was on unemployment and didn't return to work until 22 February.All those years except for 2020 I was supporting my two sons and claimed them as dependents. My tax preparer had said that since he wasn't required to file taxes due to the dollar amount and since I was supporting him since he was disabled that I could claim him as a dependent. Now that's social security disability has converted into regular social security, and he's still not required to file because he's social security is under $25,000 a year do I just go ahead and file a married joint return from here on out? Or do I file married filing separate?

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No before I married him I just filed head of household and claimed both my dependent children. Him and I weren't together for about 7 years and he never filed his taxes. Was advised at that time to just keep everything separate including my main name. I definitely file and got returns on all the years he failed to file. But because of that issue I felt it was better for myself and in my best interest to keep things separate, and now I'm finding that in the long run may have helped me at some point but now I have potential legal issues for the way I file my taxes the last 6 years

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If you are married he has to file his Social Security and SSDI whether you file Joint or Separate.   If you file Separate he has to file a Separate return too.  So after you got married you either need to add his SSDI or SS to a Joint return OR he has to file a MFS return for his SS or SSDI.  

 

Up to 85% of Social Security becomes taxable when all your other income plus 1/2 your social security, reaches:

Married Filing Jointly: $32,000

Single or head of household: $25,000

Married Filing Separately: 0

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@user17519030363 wrote:

Now that's social security disability has converted into regular social security, and he's still not required to file because he's social security is under $25,000 a year do I just go ahead and file a married joint return from here on out? Or do I file married filing separate?


Going forward only:

 

If you are married, you must file married filing jointly or married filing separately.  There is no reason to file separately unless you suspect him of tax fraud, so I recommend joint filing.  You must list all your combined income.  His social security might be partly taxable depending on your other income, but if you file married filing separately, then he must file also file and his social security is fully taxable. 

 

Your preparer is incorrect about his social security not being taxable.  If he was single, and SS benefit was his only income, it would not be taxable.  But if he is married and files a joint return, then you must list all your income and the social security might be taxable, depending on your other income.  If he is married and files separately, his social security is fully taxable because that's how separate filing works.  

 

I suggest you file jointly.  

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I can't address the whole long story.

 

However, there was no reason to file separately when he was disabled.  SSI (supplemental security income) is needs-based and having a spouse income might affect eligibility, but SSDI (social security disability insurance) is earned by working and can't be taken away even if you are married and your spouse is a millionaire.

 

If he never filed tax returns when you were single, that is problem that could result in an audit at any time.  But the fact that he might have tax problems from before the marriage is not an issue if you file correct joint returns during the marriage. 

 

I suggest you speak to a different tax professional who can review the entire situation.

 

Filing MFJ for all the years after you married, including amending all your prior returns, is probably the way to go.  But you may not need to go back farther than 3 years. 

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I made an error on my last statement he did end up filing all his taxes and actually got returns because he was able to itemize, we weren't together during that time nor were we married during those years.

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To add a few thoughts:

 

You first need to decide if you are comfortable with filing Jointly or not.  You started off saying you wanted to keep things separate due to your husband's legal problems, so maybe filing as Married Filing Separately would be best for that aspect, even if it results in more tax.  You can discuss it with a tax professional and/or lawyer to determine if your husband's legal issues may be a consideration or not.

 

Although in many cases filing Jointly results in less tax than filing Separately, that is not always the case.  This COULD be one of those cases where separately might work out better (at least for some of the years).

 

Despite popular opinion, if you and your husband file Separately, his Social Security is NOT fully taxable.  If he has $0 of other income, only 42.5% is potentially subject to tax.  But his Standard Deduction would eliminate any tax.

 

If you filed Jointly, MORE of his Social Security could be subject to tax due to your income.  While you would benefit from the Joint Standard Deduction, the increased amount of his taxable Social Security could result in more tax.  Based on the amounts you mentioned for your income, most years would still probably be a better tax-result filing jointly, but I suspect that 2020 MIGHT end up better filing Separately.

 

While the other comments are correct that a person can't claim their spouse as a "dependent" when filing Separately, there *IS* a rule that when a spouse has $0 of gross income, the other spouse can claim his "exemption" when filing Separately.  It is possible that you misunderstood and that was what the tax preparer was referring to.  However, because some of your husband's Social Security is potentially subject to tax (which your tax preparer may not have realized), that rule does not apply to you.

 

I agree that going to a good tax professional is your best option.  You can first discuss if you are comfortable with filing Jointly due to your husband's legal problems.  Then *IF* you and your husband are comfortable with filing Jointly, your tax preparer can determine the best tax-result (as I mentioned before, 2020 in particular could possibly be tax-beneficial to file Separately).  And your tax professional can help you determine the pros and cons to how many tax returns to amend (if any).

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Thank you for your response it was very helpful. And you're correct my husband was on SSDI and it's not taxed. I think moving forward filing MJ is really the best option. I'm kind of thinking forward when it comes to us both being retired on Medicare and things that could possibly come up with that, or if my husband should pass, I want everything to be done properly do not want to deal with penalties down the line.

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