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Significant difference between Filing jointly and Filing Separately

Hi- I got married late last year, and we ran the numbers on filing jointly and separately using both itemized and standard deductions. We both err on the side of paying more   For our federal taxes, there is roughly a $2500 difference with the filing itemized filing separately showing the best possible refund for our family.  This seems pretty significant - is this a reasonable difference?. 

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Significant difference between Filing jointly and Filing Separately

We cannot see your return(s) so cannot comment on whether your results are reasonable.   When you file MFS you have to follow all of the rules regarding itemizing or using standard deduction--lots of people get that wrong.   Both spouses have to itemize, or both spouses must use standard deduction.  It cannot be one of each.  And if you are in a community property state it gets even more complicated.

 

 

It is not easy to compare MFJ to MFS using online TT but you can do it.  Since you only get one return for each account and user ID, you have to use 3 accounts and user ID’s—one for MFJ and two for each of the MFS returns.  Compare, choose, and file—and pay—accordingly.

 

It is much easier to do this comparison using the desktop version of TT installed from a CD or downloaded to your own computer.  You pay once for the software and you can prepare multiple returns easily, and it has a “what if” feature that allows comparisons.

 

 

 

WHAT IF…?

If you are using Desktop software:

  • With your return open, click Forms in the upper-right-hand corner
  • Click Open Form
  • In the Search area, type the word what. You should see the What If Worksheet listed, click to open it.

 

 

If you were legally married at the end of 2024 your filing choices are married filing jointly or married filing separately.

 

Married Filing Jointly is usually better, even if one spouse had little or no income. When you file a joint return, you and your spouse will get the married filing jointly standard deduction of $29,200 (+ $1550 for each spouse 65 or older)  for 2024. You are eligible for more credits including education credits, earned income credit, child and dependent care credit, and a larger income limit to receive the child tax credit. 

 

If you choose to file married filing separately, both spouses have to file the same way—either you both itemize or you both use standard deduction. Your tax rate will be higher than on a joint return.

 

 Some of the special rules for filing separately include: you cannot get earned income credit, education credits, adoption credits, or deductions for student loan interest. A higher percent of your Social Security benefits may be taxable. Your limit for SALT (state and local taxes and sales tax) will be only $5000 per spouse. In many cases you will not be able to take the child and dependent care credit. The amount you can contribute to a retirement account will be affected. If you live in a community property state, you will be required to provide additional information regarding your spouse’s income. ( Community property states:  AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, WI)

 

 If  you are using online TurboTax to prepare your returns, you will need to prepare two separate returns and pay twice since with online, you get one return per fee.

 

 

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/marriage/should-you-and-your-spouse-file-taxes-jointly-or-separ...

 

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**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**
DawnC
Employee Tax Expert

Significant difference between Filing jointly and Filing Separately

There are several credits that are not available to you when you file separately as opposed to jointly.   Because of the way the IRS writes tax code, married couples who file jointly can get higher breaks than they did when they were single.  Some things like the Child Tax Credit or Student Loan Interest Deduction, for example, come with an income phaseout.  That means that at certain income levels, the full deduction or credit is reduced.   By filing jointly, however, those phaseouts start at higher income levels, so you may be eligible for more now. 

 

Generally, filing jointly (one tax return instead of two) will give you a bigger refund or less taxes due. You can compare your estimated taxes for filing jointly vs. separately with TaxCaster.

 

What does getting married mean for my taxes?

 

Comparing MFS and MFJ

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