Level 1

Question

Please help! Accidentally submitted a Non-Filer form

Forum|Forum|6 years ago
April 20, 2020
26 replies
4 views

I am desperate and have no idea where to turn for help. I accidentally submitted a Non-Filer form and need to delete that form and file my 2019 tax return instead so I can get my refund and stimulous money. I have no idea how to correct my error and appreciate any and all assistance.

Show previous replies

D

Dynae87

Level 2

Hi so should I file for an extensions and wait till july 15th or later to send paper return since I did a non file form on accident? Or can I send it anytime?

fanfare

Level 15

According to Wall St Journal your mailed return will go into a trailer in the IRS processing center parking lot.

N

natashasamuels79

Level 2

What it said was if you have not filed a 2018 or 2019 tax return or are not required to file a tax return. Use non filers. Two weeks ago it did not have additional information.

J

Jhennesja

Level 2

I thought I was filling out a 2018 non filer form bc I hadn’t completed this years taxes yet. I did it in hopes of having my bank info on file for the direct deposits and now I see that it’s for 2019 and I can’t submit my 2019 taxes. I’ve called IRS and they aren’t answering questions for this matter. I’m currently laid off and freaking out. What do I need to do??

fanfare

Level 15

@Jhennesja have you read through any of this thread ?

M

mr_jakes

Level 2

Go ahead and log back into non filer. When you get to form up top click clear form then

at bottom it will say are you sure you want to delete this click yes. That is what I did.

Then wait and go into get my payment ... but wait for a while til you are confirmed that has happened.. You may even have to wait a few days. I hope this helps.

B

bidemibright77

Level 2

I am on the same boat. Appears the only option left is to mail the forms to IRS.

J

Juandollas

Level 2

I accidentally did this as well and would appreciate if someone knows how to fix! I really want to get my tax return.

E

eunos2345

Level 2

This post might be helpful

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-accidentally-filed-non-filer-how-to-fix/01/1531520#M547483

V

vcummings84

Level 2

I messed up and did the Non-Filer form, I did it so I could submit my direct deposit information so I could get the stimulus check I didn't realize Get My Payment was to submit that info, I thought Get My Payment was to check staus! I deleted the the Non-Filer form but it still says status not available in Get My Payment. I filed my 2018 last year but owed, haven't done my 2019 yet. Does anyone know if this mistake will be rectified by them mailing the stimulus check?

T

Tonyd1991

Level 2

I did the exact same thing. I have the same situation as you. I also owed last year is why I submitted my info to non filer.

My Payment status JUST (yesterday) updated to now showing my payment will go to the correct bank info. account. It was about 2 weeks after I did not file and submitted bank info.

BUT, I went to actually file with turbo, figured I'd get it out of way (my status hadn't updated yet) and I found out I can't electronic file now because submitted non file.

V

vcummings84

Level 2

Oh ok 😞 this is so nerve racking!! 😞 I'm hoping since I deleted the non filer form it'll just send my check via mail to my address from 2018 taxes. Since I deleted the form I'm gonna try and file my 2019, I might have to file 1040x via mail but I'll see, this is all so confusing!

C

calebchase

Level 2

I apparently can't file my taxes for 2019

Because I accidentally files the non filers payment thing

What should I do?

Critter

Level 15

Unfortunately, if you accidentally submitted the non-filer form but you really need to file a 2019 tax return you will not be able to file your 2019 tax return electronically.

Also, you will need to file Form 1040X, rather than Form 1040.

The non-filer submission was intended for taxpayers who truly did not need to submit a tax return for the tax year, and as such it created a very simple tax return submitting a $0 tax return. This is true whether you originated your submission from the TurboTax site or the IRS site.

This means that you now have a tax return on file with the IRS, and to submit your true return, you will need to amend it by mail using Form 1040X.

If you used the TurboTax site to submit your return, you will be able to use your TurboTax account that you created to work through your amended return.

If you used the IRS site, using our downloaded software will provide a better amendment experience as it is easier to create the original return necessary prior to creating the amended return. You can purchase that software here: TurboTax Download Software.

For more complete information on how to amend a tax return please see this article: How to File an Amended Tax Return.

G

glennboulder

Level 4

WRONG #1: "Also, you will need to file Form 1040X, rather than Form 1040. "

1) One does not file a 1040X INSTEAD of a 1040. Wrong wrong wrong. You still file a 1040... and then ADD or subsequently file, after the fact, a 1040X amendment. The 1040 reports a complete accounting, whereas a 1040X reports ONLY the information that is being AMENDED. When amending with a 1040X, you file BOTH.

2) Many people submitted their info to the IRS using the "non-filer" form, because for the first 2 weeks that the feature was available on the IRS web site, it appeared that people who had not filed a 2019 YET, could use this form to make sure their address and Direct Deposit info was correct. So many people used the feature for this purpose. They hadn't filed a 2019 return YET, and wanted to make sure the IRS had their correct info to receive their stimulus check.

It was after TWO WEEKS of poor information on the IRS web site, did they add a yellow colored "warning box" instructing people to not use this feature just to update their information.

BUT... now that you have alerted the IRS that you are a non-filer, you will not be able to submit via e-file or through TurboTaxes e-file feature, because the IRS rejects your e-file believing it to be a fraudulent SECOND FILING.... which it is not. But, the IRS system, "THINK" that it is. You'll need to send in a paper return by snail-mail.

The 1040X Amended Return form, IS OF NO USE for this purpose. The 1040X for is ONLY for "financial" modifications. There is no provision on that form to change your IRS status from "Non-filer" to "Yes-filer".

At this time, I am unaware of any mechanism for changing your status from non-filer to filer. I am sending in my paper return with a 4 sentence cover letter to alert the IRS why they are receiving a paper return from me. It should be obvious when they receive the paper return, and have no other return on file AT ALL, what the situation is and accept the paper return. Fingers crossed.

WRONG #2: "If you used the TurboTax site to submit your return, you will be able to use your TurboTax account that you created to work through your amended return. "

1) TurboTax CAN NOT be used to file an amended return. An amended return CAN ONLY be filed by paper via snail-mail.

WRONG #3: "If you used the TurboTax site to submit your return, you will be able to use your TurboTax account that you created to work through your amended return. "

1) Once you declare your return as "Complete" in TurboTax, TurboTax "LOCKS you out" of making any other changes to your return. You can't fix it, you can't change it, you can't even access the form questions. NOTHING.

(It MAY be possible to phone TurboTax Support and have them "re-set" your account so that you can retroactively make changes. They can do this for other scenarios but I haven't verified for this scenario. BUT... if a return has been e-filed already, you CAN NOT make any additional changes via the TurboTax software.)

2) For people who accidentally submitted on the IRS website that they are a "non-filer" when in fact they ARE trying to file a 2019 return... these people will NOT be able to e-file by ANY method, or via ANY software. The IRS will have locked them out of the e-file system, and they have no choice but to file by paper via snail mail.

3) IF ....

A) ... you are locked out of e-file by the IRS and can not e-file your return, AND

B) ... you want to print you paper return using TurboTax, AND

C) ... you have already declared in the TurboTax software that your return is "Complete"

.... you CAN NOT go back into the TurboTax program and make any changes. TurboTax does not allow this after you have declared your file complete.

(It MAY be possible to phone TurboTax Support and have them "re-set" your account so that you can retroactively make changes. They can do this for other scenarios but I haven't verified for this scenario. BUT... if a return has been e-filed already, you CAN NOT make any additional changes via the TurboTax software.)

At the time of this writing... May 1st 2020....

- the IRS website offers NO INFORMATION on how to change your non-filer status to filer status. The 1040X Amended Return form WIL NOT WORK, for this purpose.

- the IRS phone services are NOT AVAILABLE due to COVID-19 limitations.

Suggestions:

- IF you OWE money with your return, you have until the extended deadline of June 15th 2020 to file your return and pay. So, why not just wait 4-6 weeks and see if the IRS can provide more guidance between now and then... or see if the IRS phone support services go back online in the next 4-6 weeks... and ask them directly. You have until June 15th, so why not wait and see if better information comes out from the IRS.

- IF you are due a RETURN of FUNDS to you from the IRS... (as I am)... Send in your paper return via snail mail, and attach a simple 3-4 sentence cover letter which explains what should be self evident to the IRS when they receive a paper return on an account which shows non-filer status. Your (and my) return will likely need to go into some kind of "secondary review" and be delayed an additional week or two. But I'm confident it will get processed.

- BEWARE of the s**t-ton of bad answers from people in these forums. It is remarkable how many people are offering advice which is completely wrong, and don't seem to know what they are talking about... yet have great confidence about their nonsense and gibberish.

TarheelEd

Level 4

Same here. Hoping IRS see's this is a systematic mistake on the part of a LOT of folks and offers a workaround

W

Walkera32

Level 2

PLEASE READ!! I FILLED OUT THE NON-FILER PAYMENT IN ERROR BACK ON SATURDAY, APRIL 18TH. AFTER CHECKING MY PAYMENT STATUS USING (GET MY PAYMENT) FOR OVER A WEEK THERE WAS NO CHANGE IN STATUS NOR A DATE TO RECEIVE MY PAYMENT.NOW I KNOW I NEED TO FILE MY 2018 or 2019 TAX RETURN BUT THE IRS WILL NOT ACCEPT IT ELECTRONICALLY. I TRIED CALLING MULTIPLE IRS NUMBERS FOR CLARIFICATION WITH NO LUCK OR HELP FROM ANY LIVE PERSON. SOME SAY TO MAIL IN THE 2018/2019 TAX RETURN AND OTHERS ARE SUGGESTING TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE JULY 15th DEADLINE TO RESUBMIT! I EVEN TRIED DELETING THE NON-FILER FORM WHICH IS MOOT SINCE THE IRS HAS ALREADY ACCEPTED IT. IT HAS NOW BEEN 10 DAYS SINCE I SUBMITTED THAT NON-FILER FORM (IN ERROR) BUT NOW MY REFUND STATUS HAS BEEN UPDATED ONLINE TO SHOW I WILL RECEIVE MY REFUND AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. ALSO, USE THE CORRECT GET MY PAYMENT OPTION. DO NOT USE THE OPTION PROVIDED WITHIN THE NON-FILER PORTAL TO CHECK THE STATUS. See below for attached link.
https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment

M

mchlagirl1

Level 2

I did the same..I just want to know if we will get our stimulus $

G

glennboulder

Level 4

It will be mailed via US Postal snail-mail. (most likely)

1) Originally, the IRS and the Administration, said REPEATEDLY, that if you had filed in 2018 OR 2019, you would receive a Direct Deposit to whatever account they had on file.

WRONG: it seems now that if you filed a 2018, but not yet filed a 2019, your stimulus payment is being MAILED.... no Direct Deposit. I can't verify that this was true for 100% of people, but it appears true for may, including me.

2) Treasury Secretary Mnuchin said in a live press conference that there would be a provision for people to "verify" their address or DD info. This is why so many people used the "non-filer reporting tool" on the IRS web site, mistakenly.

When it first rolled out, this feature looked like the promise that we could verify our DD info through this feature. There was no clarification for "non-filer EVER" vs "non-filer YET". The clarification and the subsequent yellow colored warning box on the IRS site, to not do this, didn't appear for TWO WEEKS, after the feature rolled out. So, many of us made the mistake.

WRONG: There STILL is no toll for verifying Direct Deposit info or verifying address info as promised by the Administration. Promised, but still doesn't exist 4 weeks later.

3) The IRS portal for checking the status of stimulus payments is

https://sa.www4.irs.gov/irfof-wmsp/status

CRAP: For WEEKS... this has been a relatively useless resource for millions of people because it would report "Status Unknown" for millions of people. Also, the web site is programmed to lock you out for 24 hours after an inquire. You can only check once every 24 hours. This was intentional so not to overload the servers with too many simultaneous inquires.

For an entire MONTH this site reported that my status was "Unknown".

But... 3 days ago on April 27th 2020, my status changed to "Your payment will be mailed on May 1st."

Keep checking back. They are slowly adding people to the database and updating status.

This is a link which shows the official published timeline for when people will receive their Stimulus Check. Scroll down about half way to see the bulleted list of Adjusted Gross Incomes and Dates.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/04/21/heres-precisely-when-youll-get-your-stimulus-check.aspx