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Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS


@derscott wrote:

The direction for generating a sanitized return don't align with my iMac version of TT. I'm not sure where the "Send to Tax File Agent" option/control lives.


Come on, Mac users aren't supposed to need special help 🙂    I think (I could check at home but not here) that it is under the right-most menu, which might be something like "Help" or "Support."  Or that's where it used to be.  

GabiU
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Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

When using a Mac, the option is under the Help menu. 

I did get some other information talking with my colleagues. 
The fact that it went through when the box was unchecked might have to do with the the current information in the social security database. It's best to paper file if you keep getting a rejection. 

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Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

OK, I sent it.   The token number us 613203.

Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

token number is: 613345

GabiU
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Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

Thank you both. 
I'll reach out to you in a private message if I get anymore information. 

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kgdemers
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Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

see token 616256  How long should we wait for a response ?

kgdemers
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Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

see token 616256

Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

So, is the final answer for those of us filing in the year our spouse died that we cannot e-file our returns?

Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS


@golfsharkjt wrote:

So, is the final answer for those of us filing in the year our spouse died that we cannot e-file our returns?


For now, apparently not.  If this is identified as a bug, it might get fixed, but you might wait longer for the fix than the extra wait of mailing a return.  And even if this is a bug this year, there will be some cases where the spouse's SSN is locked out, because that has been happening for many years. 

GabiU
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Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

Thank you, we did not find any snags in the product at the moment. 
Regarding your return....Please print and mail in your return. If you've attempted to e-file 5 times and received a rejection, you'll have to mail in your return. This is not an ideal experience but we thank you for your patience and for using the community to let us know. 
Thank you @Opus 17 for all your assistance on this! We'll keep our eye out for similar experiences. 

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Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

Look up other posts regarding this known problem. 

 

The only solution to get your federal and state tax returns successfully accepted via E-FILING is at FREETAXUSA dot com and not use TurboTax.  You do not have to print out a TurboTax created paper tax return and mail it in and even with certified mail with return receipt the IRS may lose your tax return (this happened once when an exception required a paper filing; the IRS finally acknowledged they lost it and accepted another filing). 

 

The only difference in completing TurboTax vs Freetaxusa tax returns is that FREETAXUSA asks you to input BOTH your state ID and your deceased spouse's state ID numbers/driver's license numbers along with the prior year AGI.   

 

TurboTax only allows for one person of the joint return's state ID entered in, but because a spouse died, the IRS wants to verify BOTH spouses' ID numbers.  

 

TurboTax is supposedly aware of this problem, but they shirk fixing their software and ask people to just mail a paper return.  

 

Turbotax spits out the same error for countless other longtime TT users: "Prior Year AGI Incorrect" when the AGI is correct.

 

The ONLY difference in the tax returns created by FREETAXUSA vs Turbotax:

* Freetaxusa inputs 1. prior year's AGI and 2. enter surviving spouse's State ID/driver's license number, issue date, and expiration date. 3. enter deceased spouse's State ID/driver's license number, issue date, and expiration date.  

Voila, Freetaxusa E-FILED returns were accepted by the IRS and state tax board within half an hour.

 

* Turbotax: 1. prior year's AGI. 2. Asks only for surviving spouse's State ID and not the deceased spouse's.  The IRS is making an exception for returns with a deceased spouse--they want to verify BOTH SPOUSES' ID info and NOT JUST ONE SPOUSE.

 

I have multiple elderly relatives who used TurboTax first via their CPAs and now on their own.  Never encountered a problem e-filing until this one time to help my elderly widower father.  

 

E-filing is the preferred option for most and customers are willing to pay the fee for getting quick IRS acknowledgement of acceptance of the returns.  

 

Going to the post office and mailing a paper return is not allowed nor advisable for the 7 million people in the SF Bay Area who are under government-mandated shelter-in-place restrictions because of the high number of Covid19 cases and deaths (and many more unknown cases because of insufficient test kits).  They only allow us to go out for medical reasons and food shopping, and if taking the dog for a walk, we must keep six feet away from any other person.   

Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS


@frustratedwidower wrote:

 


 

Going to the post office and mailing a paper return is not allowed nor advisable for the 7 million people in the SF Bay Area who are under government-mandated shelter-in-place restrictions because of the high number of Covid19 cases and deaths (and many more unknown cases because of insufficient test kits).  They only allow us to go out for medical reasons and food shopping, and if taking the dog for a walk, we must keep six feet away from any other person.   


No problem.  You can file an electronic extension to file until Oct 15 and the IRS has extended the date to pay any tax due for 90 days, but if you owe, then you can pay that electronically also.  

 

(Actually I live mid-peninsula in the SF bay area and had to go to the PO today to mail a package, no problem at all.)

**Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**

Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

We already successfully E-FILED with FREETAXUSA dot com.

 

Everyone with the same problem for widows/widowers: use freetaxusa dot com to e-file.  TurboTax is not asking for both the surviving spouse and deceased spouse's ID numbers.

 

Most folks here do not need a tax extension filing macuser22.  Good luck and I appreciate you volunteering to help sheltered-in-place or homebound seniors over age 65 to 100 plus to mail in their paper returns as needed.  It's so kind.

Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

I am always happy to help other seniors younger than me 😀

**Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**

Bug report - joint return w/deceased spouse efile rejected by IRS

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