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Pro rata rule for Roth IRA conversion, please help, Thanks!

I made an After Tax Traditional IRA contribution of $6500 for 2023 and invested it. However, I gained interest, so the Traditional IRA totaled to $6501 before I was able to convert $6500 to Roth IRA. Now I have $1 left in my After Tax Traditional IRA. Does the Pro rata rule for for Roth conversion rule now apply? How do I deal with the $1 left in my Traditional IRA on the Form 8606 for Tax Year 2023? Can I still roll the $1 to my Roth to bypass the Pro rata rule? But it’ll be over $6500 for Roth IRA conversion. What should I do? Thanks!

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dmertz
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Pro rata rule for Roth IRA conversion, please help, Thanks!

Presumably you have no other funds in traditional IRAs since the pro rata rule treats all of your traditional IRAs in aggregate as if they are a single large traditional IRA.  Because of this there is really no such thing as an "after-tax traditional IRA," only after-tax, nondeductible contributions to your traditional IRAs.

 

No matter what you do, Form 8606 Parts I and II are required to be included with your 2023 tax return.  If you have $1 left in traditional IRAs at the end of 2023, $6,499 of your $6,500 Roth conversion will be nontaxable and $1 will be taxable.  If you do noting more, $1 of basis will remain in your traditional IRA.

 

Opus 17 is correct.  Since you presently have $1 in traditional IRAs and $1 in basis, the simplest thing to do would be to convert this remaining $1 before the end of 2023.  Doing so won't change your taxable income.  You would still receive a single Form 1099-R and it would report the total of $6,501 converted.

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Pro rata rule for Roth IRA conversion, please help, Thanks!

 

Pro rata rule for Roth IRA conversion, please help, Thanks!

This all happened in 2023, correct?  I believe that if you convert the remaining $1 now, that will take care of it, since it all gets reported together on your 2023 tax return.  (This also assumes that the $6501 was your only funds in any traditional pre-tax IRA.  If you have other traditional IRA funds, even with a different broker, we need more details.)  And in the future, try specifying that you want to convert "100%" rather than a specific dollar amount.  

dmertz
Level 15
Intuit Approved! This answer has been verified for accuracy by an Intuit expert employee

Pro rata rule for Roth IRA conversion, please help, Thanks!

Presumably you have no other funds in traditional IRAs since the pro rata rule treats all of your traditional IRAs in aggregate as if they are a single large traditional IRA.  Because of this there is really no such thing as an "after-tax traditional IRA," only after-tax, nondeductible contributions to your traditional IRAs.

 

No matter what you do, Form 8606 Parts I and II are required to be included with your 2023 tax return.  If you have $1 left in traditional IRAs at the end of 2023, $6,499 of your $6,500 Roth conversion will be nontaxable and $1 will be taxable.  If you do noting more, $1 of basis will remain in your traditional IRA.

 

Opus 17 is correct.  Since you presently have $1 in traditional IRAs and $1 in basis, the simplest thing to do would be to convert this remaining $1 before the end of 2023.  Doing so won't change your taxable income.  You would still receive a single Form 1099-R and it would report the total of $6,501 converted.

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